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American says “No” to SotomayorI usually leave the polls to Dave but here’s one that jumps out at me. Only 38% of Americans believe Judge Sotomayor should be confirmed: Those numbers are Borkian. Even Thomas had plus numbers to confirm. Does this change confirmation math? I suspect Democrats will walk the plank but the GOP could wrangle 37 votes. Â
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Interesting Poll. I am sure that See-BS News will have one out that says 86% of Americans approve of Sotomayor, including 57% of Republicans.
I say NO to Sotomayor.
Weird being on the same side as the GOP
Reminds me of the Dem primary when the GOP and operation chaos
Hillary in 2012!
“Reminds me of the Dem primary when the GOP and operation chaos”
That didn’t make sense. Let me try again. It reminds me of the time when the GOP joined the Hillary campaign in attacking Obama. It was fun being on the same side as Rush, Hannity, and others.
If the GOP was smart, they would all unite to say no and simply say “We are voting with the majority of Americans who believe Sotomayor shouldn’t be confirmed.”
For pete’s sake, how many times must it be clearly shown that Rassmussem is a heavily-skewed-to-the-right pollster?? All you have to do to see the obvious is go to pollster.com and view the fact that his polls are way outside the mainstream. It is intellectually lazy to continue to flaunt a pollster just because you desperately hope it is true. Rasmussen is not even in the ballpark on his Obama approval ratings. One of the first rules when looking at any poll is to see who was sampled and how the poll compares to similar polls. Rasmussen fails on this account. Sorry again, Repubs!
It is no wonder why Repubs do so poor with the minority voters. Calling Sotomayor a “racist” will come back to haunt Repub candidates for years.
Whatever DS, I thought Ras was crazy for having a D+7 weight in the 2008 presidential election and Scott wound up being spot on. Ras is no right leaning poster by any stretch.
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And Soto is a racist. She stated so herself. Not to mention that Hispanics don’t like her either.
Sorry, had to feed the troll facts
I’ll be quiet now
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Just checking. Am I under 2.111 or was it for dwx?
I believe Dswx is, Trolletta. Unlike him, you said nothing that was completely delusional.
Remember, here is what the Bible says about trolling:
The Bible actually has much to say about internet trolls. In the book of Proverbs, chapter 26.
On responding to trolls:
Verse 4: “Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are.â€
Verse 5: “Be sure to answer the foolish arguments of fools, or they will become wise in their own estimation.â€
I take these verses to mean that for the most part you ignore trolls. It just brings you down to their level. However, if the troll thinks after a while that they are becoming wise by engaging you in conversation, without you responding, then answer their arguements and put them in their place.
On trusting a troll to quote your statement accurately, in context:
Verse 6: “Trusting a fool to convey a message is like cutting off one’s feet or drinking poison!â€
On your expectations that a troll will actually be changed by your valid arguments:
Verse 7: “A proverb in the mouth of a fool is as useless as a paralyzed leg.â€
On trying to give respect to a troll so as to make them feel at home:
Verse 8: “Honoring a fool is as foolish as tying a stone to a slingshot.â€
On what trolls will do with truth:
Verse 9: “A proverb in the mouth of a fool is like a thorny branch brandished by a drunk.â€
On what will happen if you ask the troll to be a moderator on the blog:
Verse 10: “An employer who hires a fool or a bystander is like an archer who shoots at random.â€
On why it is that trolls never seem to ever go away, and always come back for more:
Verse 11: “As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his foolishnessâ€
So here we have the theological foundation for the 2.111 policy.
Ignore both of them.
Ignore me at your peril LOL
I think Jones has a crush on me.
Confirm her, she will be awful for the left and anyone they pick will be an ideologue.
At Snowflakesinhell.com, a commentator used the analogy that she was a sniper who couldn’t shoot straight. Get rid of her, and they may get one who can.
Also,what happened at polipundit.
He may have a crush on you the way Lisa has a crush on Tim, Trolletta.
Florida: Rubio Calls in Armey for Endorsement
By John McArdle
Roll Call Staff
July 14, 2009, 12 a.m.
Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas) will endorse former state Speaker Marco Rubio (R) today in Florida’s GOP Senate primary.
Jones really is infatuated with me. He knows so much about me, I hope he’s not a stalker
I don’t know the Lisa/Tim history, sorry. Hopefully they have a happy ending LOL (if you know what I mean) . Bad Trolletta Bad
Polipundit’s gone toes elevated because of OakLeaf’s shameless homoerotic crush on Obama, a dearth of worthwhile commentary by either posters or bloggers, and its yawn-inducing content. I’m sure the pro-wrestling fanatic who found a way to graft that into every single thread he started didn’t help matters much.
Auto Czar Leaves Washington Amidst Pay-to-Play Probe Involving Former Firm
The White House stood by Steven Rattner back in April when reports surfaced that he was tied to a deal being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission and New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo. But his departure as auto czar is raising questions about the course of the investigation.
FOXNews.com
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Yeah pro wrestling would rally class up any blog.
Anyone here ever post at the old Command Post? There was a good blog destroyed by trolls.
Ras was great during the 2008 election, no doubt about it.
I felt all along that he had that election pinned down, and said so here many times (much to Polaris’s consternation).
But, Ras was slightly towards the McCain side of the middle… Gallup, CBS, and a few others were skewed towards Obama, IBD and one or two others were skewed toward McCain.
Now, Ras just seems to be way out on his own little island. It’s hard to discount him because he has such a good reputation and track record… but he is finding some vastly different results from every other polling organization, on numerous issues.
Well, as long as he didn’t pay his taxes, Obama will find a way to keep him because he’s the only person for the job.
In my Sotomayor post the other day I ignored this fact. She stumbled and broke her foot while chewing gum and walking.
I do not get into cheap shots like opposing her because she is Hispanic or has that walking problem.
I might add that Bush nominee Estrada did not get a vote to the court of appeals because democrats feared he was “the Hispanic Clarance Thomas”.
You only say that because you don’t like what his polling’s saying, Cory.
Ssssshhhhh, Rdel. You’re not supposed to let us know about Dem racism.
Wes, what’s the story on this Oak Leaf character? I used to hang out all the time at that site particularly around the time of the 2004 election. They had some really good bloggers and now its gone to hell.
Can’t figure out this Oak Leaf jerk. Is he supposed to be a conservative. The few times I’ve ventured over there he’s got his head so far up Obama’s butt I can’t stand it. Is he some kind of Kos plant?
Phil, Oak allegedly was deployed to Afghanistan, after he returned he snapped over Iraq.
He went Code Pink over Iraq and never recovered.
He is or was a LTC in the Army reserves.
I don’t go to PP anymore, so I’m not sure if he’s still in.
Yep, I peeked.
LOL
No, Wes, I’m saying that because it’s true.
It’s difficult to understand what’s happening. If it were any other pollster, the obvious assumption would be that his numbers were junk. But, it’s Ras, so I’m tempted to give him any and all benefit of doubt.
Well, OakLeaf–or as is often the moniker for him, JokeLeaf–claims to be a conservative who became disillusioned with George W Bush because of the direction the Iraq War was taking in 2005 and 2006. He went so far as to say the surge would do nothing to lessen violence in Iraq. I guess that was a bridge too far for whoever the site administrator is because OakLeaf didn’t blog there for quite awhile after that. Later, he reappeared and claimed the US is in the middle of a stellar recovery, cherrypicking any stock that goes even a cent above projections to bolster his claims. He loves to point out Republican hypocrisy and has a bullseye right over McCain but has next to nothing bad to say about Obama. He claims he doesn’t criticize Obama because we should know how bad Obama is already. Of course he hedges his statements about US economic “recovery” by giving Bush all the credit, but at the same time he says the GOP should acknowledge the “recovery” and somehow use that to benefit them in next year’s elections. Huh? In short, he–and Polipundit–are jokes, and I don’t even waste my time checking up on what’s posted over there anymore.
No Cory. Rasmussen isn’t skewed at all. He nailed the election. What more do you want? CBS, ABC, NBC. They were the ones skewed. Look at their final polls. Look at some of their Obama +13 and 14 polls and then look at their ridiculous samples.
Take a look at Rasmussen in the 2004 election while you’re at it. Bullseye again. Dead on. Hard to argue with perfection.
Complaining about Rasmussen after they nailed dead on two presidential elections in a row is laughable.
“Those numbers are Borkian.”
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SAVE G-D’S UNBORN CHILDREN!!!
VOTE NO ON SOTOMAYOR!!!
To be fair, Phil, he was slightly off in 2008. If I recall correctly, he didn’t call Indiana for Obama and was about 2 points off the final results. Still and all, he scored a near bullseye.
Borkian is not quite my creation. I think someone also invented the idea that “Friday the 13th could fall on another day of week”.
I just cannot remember who did.
RE: Bork
He said he would have voted against Heller. Justice Kennedy said he couldn’t imagine voting no.
And I owe it all to Ted Kennedy.
(Ignore all the awful descisions Justice Kennedy has made for the sake of irony.)
40- I think Pogo’s Walt Kelly came up with the Friday the 13th thing.
Phil…
Cory is a liberal, so by definition, he ignores factual evidence.
Like this…
http://www.fordham.edu/images/academics/graduate_schools/gsas/elections_and_campaign_/poll%20accuracy%20in%20the%202008%20presidential%20election.pdf
Had Reagan nominated Bork in 1986 and Scalia in 1987, the makeup of the Court would probably be different. Of course had the Republican Senators running for reelection in 1986 not forgotten to campaign for their seats, then that could have affected the outcome too.
Phil, everything you just said is exactly my point. Can you read??
He’s been within the same ballpark as the other pollsters and has proved to be the most accurate. Now, all of a sudden, he’s in a totally different ballpark.
It’s much more likely that one pollster has screwed up, than a bunch of them have.
But, as that one pollster is Ras, it’s not so cut and dry.
Wes, agreed some of RAS state numbers weren’t as good as his state numbers in 04 when he was the best. I was really referring to his national numbers which he really nailed.
The other state he may have missed was Florida I think. I believe he had McCain up 1 if I recall and Obama won it by 3.
God, you people are stupid.
Obama won FL by 2 points
I predict NC, FL, IN, VA, and NV vote for the Republican next time. If McDonnell does manage to top Deeds–and this is looking better all the time–then VA will probably shift away from the Dems and back toward the Republicans over the next several cycles.
Actually Cory, its you who seems to have his head too far up Obama’s butt to see daylight anymore.
The two most recent polls, CBS and Qunnipiac, had BO’s approval at 57.
Rasmussen is 53.
Rasmussen has proven accurate in all recent elections.
CBS and Quinnipiac have proven to skew their sample populations significantly to the left.
These are facts. Put down the kool-aid.
I can read fine jackass.
Rasmussen wasn’t “slightly toward the McCain side of the middle”. He was DEAD ON. You mean he was slightly to the middle compared to the CBS, NYT etc? Well yeah. Thats because they missed it.
#47:
ROFLMAO!
Phil, when did you decide to drop all the doom and gloom? When you were on here before, reading a post of yours was like trying to read the Book of Revelation. What happened to make you see the light?
50. Actually I think its more like 49-50% if you ask me.
but he is finding some vastly different results from every other polling organization, on numerous issues.
Comment by Cory — 7/14/2009 @ 5:49 pm
PPP a Dem firm has Obama at 52%.
So are you ignorant or lying?
49. WES.
FYI-CO has some serious buyers remorse going on with Hussein. Keep that in mind. He wont get CO next time around.
“PPP a Dem firm has Obama at 52%.”
Reality = 49%
#53:
“Book Of Revelation”?
That’s hilarious! LOL
Show of hands.
Who prefers the old Doom and Gloom Phil?
Who prefers the current Phil?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
Current Phil.
Phil,
I remember Scott Rasmussen defending his samples against conservative criticisms for much of the campaign season. He stood firm to the accusations that his samples were solid and he was dead on with the national vote. By comparison, Gallup’s final poll before the election had Obama up 11. In the meantime, I’ve been buying what Rasmussen’s been posting even when he had President Obama at 58% approval.
Cory:
I like the stuff at RCP, myself. Good resource site. Most of their articles are Conservative, but that’s okay. I like to know what Conservatives are thinking and saying.
Wes, I started to see Obama’s poll numbers slip in spite of all the MSM nonstop propaganda. It renewed my faith in the electorate – the fact that they would move in the opposite direction of the propaganda machine.
Also, according to the polls indies are no longer buying the hope and change crap. Finally, it is plain to me Obama is overreaching big time. He just can’t help himself.
I don’t believe Americans are going to swallow his nanny govt tax the hell out of business and command and control economy,
Also, the GOP has done a very good job of recruiting candidates for 2010. They couldn’t do this if potential candidates didn’t sense a tail wind building.
Actually the massive stupidity is you. Here is CBS on their most recent poll:
President Obama’s approval rating has fallen six points in the past month, a new CBS News poll finds, amid growing skepticism about his handling of the economy and questions about the impact of the stimulus package.
The president’s current approval rating, which is 57 percent, is still relatively high. But it has fallen 11 points from its peak of 68 percent in April, and has also dropped since last month’s mark of 63 percent. His disapproval rating, meanwhile, has risen from 23 percent in April to 32 percent today.
The decline in support is coming not from Republicans – whose support for the president has actually risen – but from Democrats and independents. While 82 percent of Democrats still approve of the job Mr. Obama is doing, this number is down ten points from last month.
The president’s support among independents has fallen eight points to 50 percent. Only 30 percent of Republicans back Mr. Obama, though that’s up from 23 percent in June.
Now go look at the demographics of the poll and note how they managed, like CBS always does, to find more Democrats as a percentage of the sample than even showed up in 2008, a high watermark.
Plus the Republicans they found actually went up in support of Obama, which ought to tell just how little use other than toilet paper their survey is.
Rasmussen is the only RCP poll up there polling Likely Voters. CBS, CNN, and Gallup are polling adults.
Good point, DrJay. I almost didn’t recognize what one looked like.
That would explain at least some of the discrepancy. With the RCP spread average at 21.6 and Rasmussen at 7, I believe there is something else at work as well.
#48. It was 3 points, 51-48.
I believe there is something else at work as well.
Comment by Cory — 7/14/2009 @ 6:43 pm
You have a firm grasp of the bovious, dum-dum.
It’s called partisan, agenda polling.
Tim still around?
By the way, I agree W/ 63. I also like that the the 2 founders will answer email from me even though they have hit the big time.
Now let’s not be too harsh on Cory. He did say Ras has earned his respect, so he can’t throw the poll out as he wants to do. I know he’s praying things go in the opposite direction fast though.
http://www.nhpoliticalreport.com/home/16-2012-presidential-elections/323-palin-would-find-skeptical-nh-audience-
MANCHESTER — Sarah Palin’s surprise decision to resign as Alaska governor found New Hampshire Republicans bristling against the suggestion she is done in national politics, but privately many are losing confidence in her according to random survey of New Hampshire Republicans who will shape the presidential race early-on.
Republican National Committeewoman Phyllis Woods is “perplexed” about Palin’s decision. Republican operative Greg Moore said the move left activists he talks with “confused”. Former Republican Congressional nominee Jennifer Horn said Palin quit before the job was done. Former state Republican Chair Fergus Cullen was her fan until this latest episode and he no longer gives her the benefit of the doubt.
“How can she possibly make the case that can be entrusted with the presidency when she quits in the middle of her first term as governor without giving any compelling reason explaining the decision?” Cullen asked.
Only a few, like former State Senator Bob Clegg, still talk her up even though he is backing a different candidate.
“I think she will do well as a true candidate of change. I will, however, look for her to team with Mike Huckabee,” he said.
It has now been 11 days since Palin announced she will step down as Alaska Governor at the end of the month. Since then prominent conservatives are scratching their heads. Even Rush Limbaugh is publicly wondering if she will leave the Republican Party altogether.
If she does visit the early primary state Cullen expects that she would still draw a big crowd out of the “curiosity factor”, but mean they are all supporters.
“I think many Republicans fundamentally root for her – we want to see her do well politically. But it’s what happens next that gives me doubts,” he said. “Instead of looking for reasons to like her and remain interested, voters sizing her up will instead be looking for an explanation for why she quit that doesn’t disqualify her from serving as president. And if she’s not able to give voters that good explanation quick, I think she’ll have a hard time converting fans who root for her into sustained support.
“Red Sox fans would give up on a rookie who tore up the league at Pawtucket but who was only batting .210 at the All Star break.”
There are advantages and challenges to the position Palin finds herself in the Granite State. She has tremendous celebrity. Her first trip to the state will look less like the initial gathering of 20 or so activists at a house party like most candidates than it would the 1,500 person rally Barack Obama saw in his first trip back in December 2006. Yet, Palin is a rookie. She has only visited the state once in a whirlwind general election trip. Team Palin hasn’t cultivated any relationships in the state to help her pull off such an event like Obama. Even if she got the state party to put on an event it is unclear whether she would spend her time here flawlessly.
If she decides to start calling activists or visit Horn believes she will have to explain her decision to resign before saying anything else.
“New Hampshire voters are very discerning and difficult to win over,” Horn said. “Like any other presidential candidate, if Palin decides to run for President she will need to make a personal connection with the people of New Hampshire, but will have the added challenge of explaining away why she quit in Alaska before the job was done.”
To be sure, Palin for President wouldn’t be a non-starter.
“I’m concerned and as far as I’m hearing, this move does not disqualify her from running,” Woods said. “We’re used to, in New Hampshire, giving everyone a fair shot and a fair hearing.”
Obama Numbers Follow The Economy
Shift Among Independents May Have Been Overstated, But Bad Economic News Corresponds To Downward Trend
http://www.nationaljournal.com/njonline/mp_20090710_2090.php
“In the long run — meaning 2010 and beyond — where Obama’s approval ratings go will depend largely on the direction of the economy.”
Whoever wrote that was a real genius, Tommy. I bet Martin van Buren, Grover Cleveland, Herbert Hoover, and Jimmy Carter could have told them the same thing for a lot less money.
Wes,
Blumenthal’s analysis is fair though. I respect both him and Cook as political analysts despite their left-wing leanings.
Brandon,
Silver has the number of Congressional districts won by McCain but held by a dem at 48.
Sen. Bayh will announce his 2010 re-election bid tomorrow for his 3rd term. With re-election coming, he’ll move toward the right (again). He has a $12m war chest. His only announced no-name opponent has raise $16k. Don’t expect any names to jump in on the GOP side. This seat stays blue.
If you’re referring to Charlie Cook the pollster, Tommy, based on nothing but gut feeling he had NC Senator Jesse Helms losing to Harvey Gantt in 1996 and essentially declared the 2002 elections as locks for the Dems. I wouldn’t exactly respect a man with such a track record.
Most likely, maelstrom. Let’s wait to see what the economy does first though before we let the Dems start popping champagne corks.
social cons should skip new hampshire and focus on iowa/ s carolina
Comment by maelstrom — 7/14/2009 @ 6:59 pm
Watch him on socialized medicine and Cap and Trade.
Wes,
I am referring to that Charlie Cook. I’d rank him ahead of Larry Sabato.
Perhaps it’s just style but stylistically he comes off as far less left-wing than his counterparts.
Firefighters give chilly reaction to Sotomayor hearing
AP
I stand by my earlier statement, Tommy.
Has Ricci testified in the Sotomayor hearings?
Text of House Health care bill:
http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
Shorter letter from CBO:
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/House_Tri-Committee.pdf
Congrats to Rays all stars Evan Longoria, Ben Zobrist, Jason Bartlett, and Carl Crawford.
Let’s see if Obama can throw a strike – don’t forget the back to back 3 pointers he threw at military base basebetball court.
g’nite all
peace
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Check this out… Ryan Frazier, Republican candidate for US Senate in Colorado, who happens to be African American. I think he’s got the right message, and man can he speak.
He’s a bit libertarian. Sort of undecided on abortion, supportive of civil unions for gays. But I think he can defeat the relatively unknown Bennet here. Especially in a year in which polls show Democrat Governor Ritter losing down to a Republican challenger.
http://slapstickpolitics.blogspot.com/2009/06/ryan-frazier-new-way-forward.html
“In the long run — meaning 2010 and beyond — where Obama’s approval ratings go will depend largely on the direction of the economy.â€
Does somebody get paid to write this insightful commentary?
81. Don’t forget, his wife is on several coporate boards and was attorney in the Pharmaceutical Division of Eli Lilly and Company.
Emmis Communications Corp.
Esperion Therapeutics Inc.
Corvas International Inc.
Golden State Foods Corp.
WellPoint Inc. (formerly Anthem Inc. {blue cross))
Dendreon Corp.
Nastech Pharmaceutical Co. Inc.,
Dyax Inc.
MDRNA, Inc.
Butler University. S
Curis Inc.
Cubist Pharmaceuticals Inc.,
I’ll donate to Frazier’s campaign when I get back to the states. Boy, would that put Obama in a diffcult position–having to campaign for a white man against a black man.
NC still blaming Bush
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/07/nc-still-blaming-bush.html
Beyond the Perdue approval numbers we released today we also asked folks what politicians they held most responsible for the current state of the economy. George W. Bush is still holding the trophy on that one, with 56% of respondents saying they blame him to 37% for Barack Obama and 6% for Bev Perdue.
Still 14% of Democrats and 38% of independents are now pinning it on the current President, signaling at least some impatience about the lack of a turnaround six months into the Obama administration. Those Democrats faulting Obama more than Bush for the economic woes account for more than 60% of the voters within his party who said they disapproved of him on this survey.
We also drummed down on who folks were more inclined to blame just between the two sitting Democrats. Obama took 57% on that measure to 43% for Perdue but Democrats interestingly are more inclined to put it on the Governor by a margin of 63-37. That goes a long way toward explaining the poor numbers within her party.
If things turn sharply against the Dems, then the GOP can probably lure a credible candidate into the race who can take him down–hard. The GOP rallying cry against him should be “Remember Birch?”.
Bush will be forgotten by November–as he should be. NC voters will begin blaming Obama and the Dems more and mroe then.
Wes,
I’d agree with your NC prediction. It’ll probably not be a state that goes to us by 10 points in the forseable future but it doesn’t have to be a close swing state either.
PPP has him in steady decline these last three months. He’s almost in a catch-22 because PPP attributes his decline to the increasing prominence of the social issues.
As people get less concerned about the economy, the conservative democrats and indies will be more inclined to vote on social issues. So even if the economy improves in the minds of North Carolina, Obama could just be creating more voters willing to vote on social issues.
I’m sure the state GOP back home is having a field day with Obama. Thatnks to Obama’s failures, Richard Burr’s extremely likely to be the first Senator since Sam Ervin to hold that seat and win reelection–and the first Senator since Jesse Helms in 1996 to win reelection at all.
HD #55
He is both! Just back from a long run and feel great. Shocked at the Soto numbers. Too bad 79 Senators will vote yes.
The poll is indicative of the overall mood of the country. After 6 months of socialism, the country is saying, “No thank you”.
It is very clear that Obama is NOT receiving that message. 2010 will send it to him loud and clear.
A special thank you to the Temptations for being awesome. My 60 minute run went by in a flash!
Why do I miss all the slap downs.
I wish I could run, MD.
Where is the investigation into Cheney’s “program” uh idea.
Wes,
I hope the leg gets better soon.
Tina,
It was a brawl here today. I will never directly engage though. Ever. That is what they want.
Go to Drudge – do you see the broken teleprompter? Symbolic of this administration!!!!!!
Has Lisab reappeared?
Which thread?
No, Tina, Lisa hasn’t reappeared. Thanks, MD.
What was the brawl about – who were the players. Use the code names, if nec.
Until Ras lays an egg, he is my main pollster. Partisan ones such as PPP and Zogby are ignored by me.
Plant and IT. Me, EPH, Darrell, Phil, Rachel on the “right” side.
Knova seemed to think he was caught in the middle or we were attacking him which was not the case. I can safely say that we all respect him.
MD is right, fun to see them try to drag someone in. I just ignore unless it suits my whim.
92. Not really. I moved to the state in 85. Most people don’t since he was defeated almost 30 years ago. Dan Quayle defeated him in 1981 by hammering him in the debates over his liberal voting record. Since the, the state has moved to the left and Evan has learned form the old man’s mistakes. Also, Quayle was a sitting congressman. Today, there are only 4 (of 9) GOP congressman from IN. They are Souder, Burton, Buyer and Pence. Of the three, Pence might have a shot but I doubt he runs if he thinks he can go for Pres in ‘12.
PPP has been surprisingly accurate, Tina. They are openly left wing, but they’ve never let their ideology get in the way of their polling. From what I can see, they prefer credibility to partisanship.
“The poll is indicative of the overall mood of the country. After 6 months of socialism, the country is saying, “No thank youâ€.
It is very clear that Obama is NOT receiving that message. 2010 will send it to him loud and clear.”
MDefl: I think you are missing the point. Obama understands that the Democrats are going to suffer in 2010. He does not care, the Dems are just a tool for his Marxist agenda.
He is in a win-win situation. He is forcing the Dems, especially the moderate ones, to pass his extreme agenda as quickly as possible, because his agenda cannot withstand scrutiny.
If he forces his agenda through by end of 2009, he does not care what happens to the Dems in Congress and elsewhere. He will have transformed American economy to his Marxist aims by getting cap-and-trade, single-payer healthcare, no manufacturing industry left in the US, total control over financial markets. After that, he has no further use of the Dems anyway.
If he does not get his agenda through, the Dems suffer heavily in 20101 – in Congress and in states. He gets Republican Congress and states which force him to the middle (e.g. he will gladly sign a tax cut under Rep pressure), thus enhancing his chances for re-election.
Remember Bill Clinton.
Hi Jonesey,
Tina,
The fun part was knocking them out without engaging and watching them desperately try to bait us in. I had to talk EPH off the ledge a couple of times on IT but he held firm.
I think plant is down to Wes and libs talking to her.
Boeing defense cuts mean 1,000 layoffs
Seattle Times
I ignore all partisan polls or those funded by an R or D. Been doing it since 2003.
Its not a question of accuracy – its just the appearance of bias.
The state only blipped left in 2008, Maelstrom. Obama beat McCain in a solid Dem year by less than half a point. I still think, given the right circumstances, a strong GOP challenger could take him down.
Thanks, we can not make this site into PP II.
Bayh’s only announced opponent Marlin A. Stutzman, state senator. Maybe he can go from the state senate to President in 4 years like another guy.
http://www.marlinstutzman.com/index.php
This post explains why it’s pretty stupid to vote for Sotomayor if you are a Republican.
http://blog.pos.org/2009/07/sotomayor-senator-specter-and-the-gop-base/
106/ You know it big dawg!!!
Jones:
I’m here, now. Is it me you were looking for?
And, someone tell me what happened at Polipundit. I never really visited that site.
A lot of plants invaded PP. They lost a lot of their talented bloggers, and kept the less talented one – headed by a person named Smokeleaf – who was wrong on the economy as well as the Surge.
I heard the Rs bloodied up Sotohatewhitey.
Wes. I’m not disagreeing but we are not that red. Our congressional delegation is split, our state house is split, and the D’s held the governor’s office for 16 years before Daniels was elected. The Indianapolis mayor’s office will flip back at the next election since the property tax issue has disappeared and people realize Ballard is an idiot. He thought we should create a ChinaTown somewhere in Indy like the have is SF or other cities. Too bad we don’t have too many Chinese.
It would have to be a strong candidate because last election Bayh got more votes than Bush. IN splits tickets. I know a lot of people who voted for Obamam and Daniels. Go figure; they’re nuts.
#117
I would rather that the GOP focuses on stopping amnesty than to get into a useless fight with Sotomayor. She had a couple of rough moments during the hearing. But she came across as poised, knowledgeable. You can’t make the case that she got where is she because of affirmative action. The Latino community will be reminded of this vote. The GOP played to the base the last election and lost badly. I don’t see that this is a winning strategy.
#121
I think they did a great job on the “wise Latina” remark but I don’t see that they have done enough to stop her nomination.
I wonder if I am going to get one of those “I’m appalled Tina” at you calling her Sotohatewhitey.
Maelstrom –
I always like your commentary on Indiana.
Corzine to pick reality tv contestant as running mate.
http://www.app.com/article/20090713/NEWS/90713068/-1/FRONTTABS01/Corzine+set+to+pick+candidate+for+lt.+gov
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#127
You have got to be kidding me? Corzine is not serious. With all the problems NJ faces he picks a reality TV star? Total meltdown by Corzine.
Not from me, Tina. I love your nicknames! LOL
maelstrom:
I live the the district that Bob Barr used to represent. Our polling showed that there was quite a group of people who supported both Rep. Barr and President Clinton.
I’d love for someone to explain that one to me. I never did figure it out.
“Portal Chik”?
Is that the sister of Kiev girl?
#131
Economic populism?
“I’d love for someone to explain that one to me. I never did figure it out.”
Much of that has to do with the respective opponents.
Tina, Thanks but I sure got the last election wrong. I didn’t believe the polls and thought Southern IN was too racist. Obama had a great GOTV in Marion County. It was unbelievable.
#135
How did Obama manage to win Indiana? It usually goes for the GOP by 20%.
To clarify my point in #134, many people (especially non-partisan voters) vote for who they perceive to be a better leader (”better” again being subjective).
So, a voter who is not partisan may consider Clinton to be a better leader than Dole, while considering Barr to be a better leader than whoever ran against Barr.
Well, that makes as much sense as anything else I’ve heard.
Thanx, sam.
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136 He campaigned hard for IN and was on the air constantly. Many visits and great organization. Knew which counties were vulnerable. McCain lost the Catholic vote in northern IN and eh Evansville area. Because of our dependence on manufacturing, the recession hit here early probably sometime in 2007. Neither Bush nor the war was popular. These small Midwest towns send a lot of kids off to war and people were tiring of it.
Sean,
thanks for posting the Ryan Frazier link. You made my day. I will definitely keep my eye on him.
He is an excellent candidate and I bet he will win the black vote. He has charisma and experience!!!
Here is some things about him…
Military veteran
small businessman
elected representative
cofounder of charter school
husband and father of 3
Hmmm… I just noticed that the Rasmussen generic ballot of 37% Dem is the lowest Dem total ever recorded in the traacking listed on that page, which started in April 2007.
Maybe that was noted by someone… I don’t recall.
#140
Thanks. Obama even ran commercials here in Texas which is a lost cause. He was awash with money.
I’m reposting bc I want everyone to see it…
http://slapstickpolitics.blogspot.com/2009/06/ryan-frazier-new-way-forward.html
Tim, please comment on this.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/71660.html
LG
What do you think of Steele?
Steele takes ‘baby step’ with NAACP
Obama Mulls Rental Option For Some Homeowners
from Reuters
US Government officials are weighing a plan that would let borrowers who have fallen behind on their mortgage payments avoid eviction by renting their homes instead sources familiar with the administration’s thinking said on Tuesday.
OFFICIALS ARE ALSO CONSIDERING WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD MAKE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS ON BEHALF OF THE BORROWERS WHO CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THEIR HOME LOANS.
AS PART OF THIS PLAN, JOBLESS BORROWERS MIGHT RECEIVE A HOUSING STIPEND ALONG WITH REGULAR UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, THE SOURCES SAID.
Say what??
#145
First Joe the Plumber. Now Ricci. No matter on which side of the political spectrum you belong, going after private citizens should be UNACCEPTABLE.
#147
What happened to the mortgage plan that Congress just passed?!?!?!?
Maelstrom,
How did the Alaskan governor play in Indiana?
The government is going to make mortgage payments. Correction. I will be making mortgage payments — in addition to my own?
“First Joe the Plumber. Now Ricci. No matter on which side of the political spectrum you belong, going after private citizens should be UNACCEPTABLE.”
I disagree that it’s UNACCEPTABLE but one would think it’s not politically smart to do so. Why go after a guy when the nomination is assured?
I just had a nausiating thought. It was the vision of my making kb’s mortgage.
#151
Somewhere I saw a bumper sticker that said “Honk, if I pay your mortgage”. Pretty clever.
Why go after a guy when the nomination is assured?
Comment by Tommy_Boy
Cult of personality. Some Obama supporters will automatically attack anybody who doesn’t worship him.
#153
LOL!
Saw one the other day. Pretty funny.
Obama going to throw out the first pitch soon.
“LG
What do you think of Steele?
Steele takes ‘baby step’ with NAACP”
I never really cared for Steele. I always found him entertaining but I really can’t take him seriously. I think it was a huge mistake to make him leader of the GOP. I think he got the position bc he is black and not bc of his skills to make the party strong enough to win in 4yrs.
He just doesn’t look presidential to me.
Too young.
#159
It was either Steele or the guy who belonged to an “all white” country club. That’s the shape the GOP is in.
Folks,
Obama was booed upon his introduction at the All-Star Game.
Marv
hahahaahah awesome!!!!
Actually I heard mostly cheers, I was straining to hear boos but I couldn’t.
Is the media reporting that he’s got booed?
I heard some boos. But no reporting by announcers.
#145:
Yeah, I saw it, jones. I know the man does have some issues. But, I don’t think they solve anything by attacking him, in this way. So, I can’t defend it. And, since she’s gonna get confirmed anyway, what purpose would it serve, even if what they said about him was true?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3o8hHTAcPI
Now, what do you think of this?
I thought I heard a couple of boos. But, it was mostly huge cheering.
#168
I think conservatives has completely lost their mind. Ayers didn’t work during the election, why still bring him up?
#165 Brandon,
I had a set of Bose headsets on and plugged in to the TV and I clearly heard the boos. They were quite pervasive.
I don’t doubt that you didn’t hear any though, an equal number of boos and cheers at a sporting event on TV just sounds like alot of noise. However, with a headset on it was quite different and the boos and cheers had about the same decibel level but were clearly distinguishable between the two. No kidding.
Marv
aa i heard were cheers
Do you see the difference between a private citizen and a public figure? You don’t mind hounding a working man?
Apples and oranges between Ricci and Ayers.
That said, it was poorly sourced and a weaker attack. They should focus on her incompetent, racist activism.
There were some boos, no doubt.
20 years ago, i could have named every player. today- i knew only 2 players…
Link the video someone. How was the pitch?
The Page is reporting a strike…but no report on how he was greeted.
#176 jones,
He threw the ball like someone who did not play baseball as a kid. It did, however, make it to the plate on the fly.
Marv
Why still bring up Ayers? It makes no sense. They need to stop playing to the base and start building a national party. The definition of the base is that they will vote for a sack of cement as long as there is a D or R besides the name.
There were a few boos, nothng noticeable.
Here Jones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vArbfN0Vb0I
I think liberals have completely lost their minds. Palin didn’t work during the election, why still bring her up?
Why still bring up Palin? It makes no sense. They need to stop playing to the base and start building a national party. The definition of the base is that they will vote for a sack of cement as long as there is a D or R besides the name.
#159
It was either Clinton or the guy who belonged to an “all white†country club. That’s the shape the DEMs are in.
Folks,
I’m sure some of you have it cached on your DVR……spin it back and watch it again.
Marv
#180
She has small children with her. Why boo? Very rude.
That’s bad for Obama….getting booed in St. Louis?
This is his crowd after all (upscale suburban types) and his type of city (heavily African-American city)
yup Chekote, leave it to Philly fans to boo small children.
They also booed Santa Clause and they boo when opposing players get hurt.
I don’t like Philly.
Did they boo her too?
“117.This post explains why it’s pretty stupid to vote for Sotomayor if you are a Republican.”
Exactly. Only Andrew Sullivan types would vote for a pro-abort like her.
Palin was heavily booed. It was a sad display.
You can not boo the upscale President that eats arugula.
“187.This is his crowd after all (upscale suburban types) and his type of city (heavily African-American city)”
Did you say “upscale” types???
Andrew Sullivan does not know the constitution.
She is an activist judge that uses race to bait. She is not very intelligent though. Scalia, Thomas,Alito, and Roberts are way better.q
Was President Bush booed too during the 7 minute intro???? Was he live, or taped.
Hussein was heavily booed. It was a sad display.
She has to race bait because she is not that smart.
Yup, heard it – heavily booed on the video.
Tina
She did fine. Hit a few rough stops but nothing disqualifying so far. They basically need for her to have a meltdown.
Yes Obama was booed
She is Ginzburg plus 60 lbs.
I bet the mediacon artists luv Sotohatewhitey. How is Scarfarce reacting?
You could hear more boos at the start by then his supporters REALLY made an effort to drown out the boos.
“200.Yes Obama was booed”
KOS plants AND KOS trolls to retaliate on the HHR the next 48 hours.
Prepare yourself!!!
How is the rinos at nro doing?
“How is Scarfarce reacting?”
Colin Powell?
Did they boo the wifey too. I think I will wear my 1,000 fur coat to the homeless shelter.
Waaaaay up at #77. We do have a decent bench in Indiana for the GOP. I don’t understand why the national party hasn’t been trying to recruit becki skillman who i think would make a good senator so long as i didn’t have to listen to her talk for too long. Mike Pence would even be a great candidate though i suspect he wants a for sure thing in the house. There’s probably even more that i can’t think of off the top of my head that could run a serious campaign against Bayh. We need to find Evan Bayh his own Dan Quayle.
The verdict appears to be Obama got booed.
Simply stunning that it would occur in a place as liberal as St. Louis and with as liberal an audience.
Eph
Joe Scarborough = Joe Scarfarce.
I tm’d the name btw.
205. Watch your grammar Tina
#207
Was Michelle there?
Grammar is not my specialty, EPH. I did not attend upscale schools.
LibertarianGirl re Ryan Frazier: I have a feeling that Frazier could win more of the black vote than usual, however there are not that many black people in this state (4.2%). I just like the idea that his focus seems to be on fiscal responsibility and national security – game winning issues at this time. If he can speak on the go how he speaks on the stump, I wouldn’t want to debate this guy.
He’s definitely not your typical Republican politician, that’s for sure.
209. TB,
Come on now. You know liberal people hate sports. Mostly cons in the crowd.
Tina
Did you see that Pelosi want to investigate the CIA for misleading Congress? I told you the story had her fingerprints all over.
“213.Grammar is not my specialty, EPH. I did not attend upscale schools.”
I went to “Cornell” like Keith Olberman did!!!
LOL
What happended to all the Palin/religion/life/morals bashing?
I’m getting bored!!!
I went to the University of ____
Firearms, weaponry, were my majors LOL.
what about rayburn in Colorado
Obviously spelling isn’t my specialty Tina!
How was the ex Presidents’ tributes.
I want Piglosi in jail.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/07/obama-booed-in-st-louis.html
#222
Upscale.
225. Almost funny
Obama Open to Partisan Vote on Health-Care Overhaul, Aides Say
Bloomberg
#222:
Actually, very touching. Special people they saluted, too.
224. Great stuff!
obama throws like a girl
Lame pitch, but I could not hear boos from that link.
#224:
Let’s get ‘em out on the basketball court.
Was President Bush booed.
Tommy, Rayburn represents Colorado Springs, where I live, and he is solid. Nobody has really mentioned him for Senate as far as I know. Frazier is from Aurora, a Denver suburb, and pretty much whoever wins Denver wins the state, with Boulder being far left and Colorado Springs being far right.
Also, Frazier is 31! I bet he could attract the young vote in much the same way that Obama did.
Remember, his BB coach says “Obama plays white.”
Joe Buck is going to get canned:
He said no (Obumbler) bailout of MLS on air.
236. MLS????
What was worse the way he threw or the way he ran back to the mound???
LOL – we got a girly man as President.
MLB, sorry.
Busy looking up the depressed CA Real estate market info.
“Yes Obama was booed”
Okay, what is with the *blatant* lying by Republicans? Seriously. Obama was *loudly* cheered when introduced and when he threw the first pitch. Your disgusting hatred is palpable but has lying become a standard Repub family value now? Guess so. No wonder so few Americans consider themselves Republicans and why Repubs in Congress have an abysmal approval rate.
When are we out of Afghanistan and IRaq?
Great. Another troll.
Is this anoteher one from PP?
Oh oh, apparantly somebody here is going to be in big trouble over those booing comments.
Sean,
Here is someone talking about Rayburn:
http://the-brickyard.blogspot.com/2009/05/bentley-rayburn-and-forgotten-senate.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j87k1j4CpOw&NR=1
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushcheerleader.htm
Okay, let’s vote. Choose the “girly man”. LOL
The girly man was our President who threw horribly – did not make the plate – cather was wwell in front and ran like a S__SSy
You can tell he is spending too much time in those 5 star restaurants eating arugula, fine wine, and $150 a plate dinners.
Man of the people.
I think Piglosi could throw better, maybe even Gaffe Biden. I would worry about Gaffe though if one of his plugs shot out of his head.
GM CEO says July sales appear weaker than year ago
AP
who had more 20 game win seasons nolan ryan or babe ruth ?
Will he bail out GM too?
again>>>
Ok- from the video:
Mostly cheers, few boos.
Toss was not bad for a guy in a flak jacket. Obvious he wasn’t going to try to pitch.
Don’t run obama, he looked silly.
150. Re: Palin in IN. She helped real well with the base. Probably helped keep it close but lost a lot of the Catholic vote.
Q: How many votes will Sotomayor get in the Senate?
75 looks pretty doable. Not everyone’s a hater.
PDNFTT
#256 what do you mean …helped keep it close but lost a lot of the Catholic vote?
In what way?
Okay, let’s vote. Choose the “girly manâ€. LOL
Comment by Tim — 7/14/2009
i vote obama
208. I’m less than impressed with Skillman. She seems like a dim bulb. I think she is only the LT Gov. because the incumbent Dem she was running against was a women. Now Kathy Davis had some cred. She wasn’t a career politician, had a BS in engineering from MIT and MBA from Harvard. She left the scene after the election and I’m assuming she’s making some good money.
Wait, Obama’s a southpaw? How did I miss this?
test
259. Northern IN (think SB, Elkhart, Mishawaka) is heavily Catholic as is SW Indiana (think Evansville). Mostly Democrat but Blue Dog (check out Congressman Brad Ellsworth from Evansville). Catholics tend to be the swing voters in Indiana (like OH). They supported Bush over Kerry but Obama over McCain.
Very little support for McCain from the GOP base until Palin was picked but Catholics tend to dislike evangelical Christianity. It’s one reason they don’t flock to the GOP. (Lot’s of history there. The GOP pushed prohibition in the 1920’s which was aimed at Catholic ethnic groups.) She turned a lot of people off.
The GOP should be attracting more Catholics as well as African Americans but it turns people off when GOP officials compare the 1st lady to an ape or call the President the magic Negro.
Got that everybody. If you’re in the Senate and you vote against Sotomayer, you’re “a hater”.
LOL
Mael,
In other words, she couldn’t win over enough “Lisa B’s” in Indiana.
#264 – Interesting maelstrom. Mary Brown in “Hand of Providence” detailing the Christianity of Ronald Reagan alluded to that playing a big role in the 1980 election.
Maelstrom – Interesting, we saw the oppositte effect here in LA. Palin was wildly popular among Catholic voters. LA is predominantly Catholic and there was little enthusiasm for McCain here until Palin got added to the ticket. McCain/Palin won LA big.
I don’t understand your comment “…but it turns people off when GOP officials compare the 1st lady to an ape or call the President the magic Negro”. These type of comments are made by people from both parties and it is a minority of people in each. Each party has fringe elements that turn people off. What about all the code pink fools on the left? Don’t they turn people off? Democrats didn’t turn people off with all there attacks on Bush, Cheney and Rice and then Palin during the campign?
268. Catholics in Indiana tend to be of Polish, Irish, Italians, Lithuanians, Slavs, etc. descent. Different demographic than LA. Very blue collar and unionized. Steelworkers, autworkers
Hmm – we have lots of Irish and Italians too. Must be those Polich and Slavic Catholics!
LA,
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t the Catholics in LA very conservative economically and socially.
The Catholics in IN are more the blue dog populist culturally conservative types.
#269 But Todd Palin belongs to a union and clearly the Palin are working/middle class. So why would they be turned off by Palin?
#271
Then how you explain Landieu winning?
TB, Yes Catholics here are both economically and socially conservative. Catholics and protestants here get along very well and work well together on many social justice ministries. We’re all christians. The differences do not pull us apart but rather we are brought together by what we have in common.
Other than the teachers, police and firemen, the unions here are very weak.
Well, she got Lisa’s vote
Chek,
Perhaps the war as maelstrom mentioned earlier.
Folks,
Does anyone here have any intel on tomorrow’s Ras numbers?
Polaris, if you’re around, do you still have a way to find out the number?
Marv
BREAKING NEWS…
PUJOLS TO OBAMA: 9.5% (AND RISING)
Now you can stop arguing…
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Obama-reps-Chicago-s-South-Side-delivers-first-?urn=mlb,176561
Landrieu has barely won each of her elections. She is from an old line political family with many connections, much like the Kennedys in MA. This is her third term and she still has to fight hard to stay in…even in what was supposed to be a good year for Democrats. Her voting record is also fairly conservative. Unfortunately each time she has run, it has been against weak candidates. Landrieu would not have had a chance against Vitter or Jindal.
“Her voting record is also fairly conservative.”
Decent pro life record – for a DEM.
LOL
The more debatable point from the historic moment was the reception the President was afforded by the self-described “best fans in baseball.” Though Obama was roundly cheered by the All-Star fans, his live presence still didn’t attract the applause that George W. Bush did during a taped announcement by the four previous Presidents before the game and some boos could even be heard among the cheers.
#276
Mael needs to post more. I have have driven once through southern Indiana. That’s the extent of my knowledge of it. Very curious.
282. Where did you get that TB? LOL
One person cheering is louder than one person booing. I could hear a considerable amount of booing with the cheering. I would imagine that most people there did not boo even if they don’t like Obama. As a general rule, conservatives have more class and are more polite than liberals.
Eph,
LG’s link, hahahahaah
hmmmm…from http://www.mlbbeyond.com
We stand at a unique moment in the history of our nation.
The challenges we face are unprecedented in their size and scope, and we cannot rely on quick fixes or easy answers to put us on the road to recovery. In this new century, we need to a build a new foundation for economic growth in America.
-President Obama
I think I get it. He wants to abolish the free enterprise capitalistic economy that has made a nation a powerhouse and create a new one based on government being king. Cap and Trade and Healthcare legislation all make sense now.
Please watch this video and pass it along:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeuBB_mOFIA
Tommy Boy-
For the record, STL fans really are the best fans in the game. As a whole, they are as educated about the history of the game as some on this blog are re politics. Plus, they are hospitable fans. As for Lisab, think about it people. It’s summer time. She probably went on vacation and used it as a way to make us think she was picking up her ball and glove and walking home. She’ll be back bc she knows we all enjoy her company. BTW-Palin laid the smackdown today w that op-ed!!
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I’m pretty sure fewer people thought Alito and Roberts were qualified.