OH: Poll Results For Gov and Senate Races
Here are some new numbers for the Gubernatorial and US Senate races in Ohio from Daily Kos and Research 2000.
GOVERNOR – OHIO (Research 2000)
Ted Strickland (D-inc) 44%
John Kasich (R) 39%
In the race for the US Senate, both top Democrats lead Republican Rob Portman.
US SENATE – OHIO (Research 2000)
Jennifer Brunner (D) 40%
Rob Portman (R) 36%Lee Fisher (D) 42%
Rob Portman (R) 35%US SENATE – OHIO – DEM PRIMARY (Research 2000)
Lee Fisher 22%
Jennifer Brunner 17%
This poll was done July 6-8 among 600 likely voters.
VOTE PRO LIFE !!!
KOS POLL!!!
D+22 ?????????
Seems pretty accurate.
looks to me like Obama is checkin out that woman’s butt on Drudge photo…
1.VOTE PRO LIFE !!!
Ok, Ok, stop twisting my arm.
Regarding Kasich, as soon as Palin shows up in Ohio and campaigns for him, those numbers will change and no Dem +22 or anything will help them.
I don’t really have a take on Portman. Anybody know him?
Portman is awesome!
A true conservative IMHO
Just so happens that her dress is the same color scheme as his Teleprompter.
He was just looking for his next line.
eph, Do you live in Ohio?
4- and a shapely butt is is !
8. No, but I know a true conservative – as is Portman.
If the GOP were more like him we win big in 2006 and 2008.
Plus he is not “upscale”
Thanks eph
Looks like I’m going to have do some homework.
looks to me like Obama is checkin out that woman’s butt on Drudge photo…
Comment by Tim V — 7/9/2009 @ 4:47 pm
Sarkozy knows it too. Look at him looking and grinning!
Michelle is NOT going to like this.
Howard, I also noticed Sarkozy checkin her out too. Obama appears to be a BUTT man and apparently ( Michelle ) the BIGGER the better.
also Sarkozy’s look is a little less obvious and sneakier…
The GOP should take Ohio Gov seat easily. People are starting to turn on Strickland bc all of his stupid budget proposals. People just dont know Kasich yet and that is the only reason that the polls reflect it as a tight race.
Obama checking out the butt – human reaction, the funny part of that pick is Sarkosy catching him and smiling.
Too early for these polls to mean anything. OHIO is a battleground state moving slowly more and more blue. Anything can happen. Too many undecideds in the polls.
Breaking: Burris is not running for re-election.
No surprise about Burris. That corrupt slimebag never should have been in the Senate to begin with. He was toast in the primary, and even he realized it.
HS,
Bad news for us. We could have hoped for him to play the race card in the Democrat primary, creating some divisions.
Kirk seems toast now.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Most-Emailed-Photos/ss/1756;_ylt=AnWtKPgJJwBlDDFApgt02v0HcggF
The drive to remake the nation’s health care system suffered yet another setback in Congress on Thursday when a pivotal group of House Democrats rebelled against leadership-backed legislation taking shape and sought additional time to make changes.
“We need to slow down and do it right,” Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark., said outside a meeting of the Blue Dog Coalition, a group of 52 moderate to conservative Democrats. “It needs to do a much better job of cost containment” within the health care system, he added.
Other lawmakers said they were concerned about proposed tax increases, the rules on any government-sold insurance, and other issues that are key to implementing President Barack Obama’s call for sweeping legislation.
Ross said the group was drafting a letter to the Democratic leadership asking for additional time. Although he did not specify how much time, he said he believes no vote should take place until the fall — well after a midsummer informal deadline set by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
The group met as Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee were laboring to put the final pieces in place on a bill that the White House has praised. The party’s leadership hopes to unveil it Friday and push it through committee next week.
“I promised the president that we would have legislation out of the House before we went on an August break. That is still my goal,” Pelosi said earlier in the day.
Rahm knows if they dont push this nonsense thru before the American people figure out what they are up to, they wont ever get it through. But the Blue Dogs wont just walk the plank. A rift in the Democrat Party? Where are all the news reports?
the real disaster for obama is that he is looking at a white women
black women haaaaate it when successful black men go after white women.
i guess obama’s trip to europe will be extended indefinitely
“can i visit you in tuva? huh, please? can i? i can’t go home”
And its a Daily Kos poll, so I would counsel you to ignor. They did not do very well last polling outing.
How did Coburn find himself entangled into this Ensign controversy?
Actually their state polls were pretty good. It was their national poll that was off the mark.
21. WHERE ARE THE FEMINISTS ??????
Brandon,
I find it unlikely that there is such a gap between Stickland’s favorables and Obama’s approval.
Kos just has Research 2K go into the tank for Obama.
Kos can regain some credibility if his pollster shows Obama below 60% in the polls tomorrow.
Polling non-voters is hilarious.
Brandon,
It appears that you’ll be proven right with respect to Palin v. Pawlenty in Minnesota (though it’s conceivable that her topline favorable number is higher because I suspect her favorables among Republicans in the state is higher than Pawlenty’s favorable number among Republicans).
Inferring “Goldwater” from losing badly in a state that even Reagan couldn’t win?
I don’t know what you guessed with Pawlenty v. Obama but it appears to be a double digit deficit for both governors with Pawlenty polling probably 5 points better than his colleague from Alaska.
I guessed 54-40.
That picture of Obama starting at the booooootttiee is priceless. Sarkozy’s expression makes it even better. And he is staring at a white woman, no less!!!!! Love it, love it, love it.
How did Coburn find himself entangled into this Ensign controversy?
Comment by Tommy_Boy —
Because they are part of the same prayer group. I think it is called “The Family”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_(Christian_political_organization)
Tony
GN is in Ohio.
Someone alluded to this in a previous thread.
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/09/house-dems-rebel-against-health-care-reform/
The Dems are seeing what we are here. I think they are already trying to minimize certain losses they are going to have in the mid-term elections. Lots of Dem congressmen are quite worried about their jobs and it is just becoming too perilous to vote on this.
Off topic, I talked to a friend of mine in west Michigan and he thinks that it is starting to turn red. People are sick of things up there. With a significant portion of Detroit’s population gone out of state, the demographics of the state have changed big time. Whether this will translate in the next few years remains to be determined.
Oh, and last, Chekote
“Religion and morality are the pillars of freedom” -George Washington
Senator Ensign’s parents paid off his mistress?
Ah, gee…..
That one may surely finish him. Probably no future of any kind, now…
FINAL TIME…
“In the race Casey-Santorum, didn’t Casey run as a pro-life Democrat?â€
What happened to the “upscale†vote??
Obama’s ogling is the first likable thing the Liar has done since he slapped biden down for attacking Chief Justice Roberts.
It will cost him a new $8000 pair of socks for his wife, but it was endearig.
http://WWW.AFTERABORTION.COM
Tim, it didn’t hurt Slick willie.
“Religion and morality are the pillars of freedom†-George Washington
Tell that to the DEMs
Jones: See? He’s a real guy just like the rest of us. Just give him a chance on cap and trade and you will see how awesome he really is.
“Religion and morality are the pillars of freedom†-George Washington
Comment by phoenixrisen
And what does that have to do with politics or the role of government? Are you suggesting that people like KB, Aaron, Tim are immoral or atheists because they believe in a larger federal government role?
Senator Ensign’s parents paid off his mistress?
The party of family values strikes again.
42, I’ll pass.
“Senator Ensign’s parents paid off his mistress?”
Maybe Ensign should switch to DEM???
#41
After Sanford, Ensign and now Coburn getting ensnared in affairs, you still have the courage to post something like that? Talk about Chutzpha!
SCIENTISTS CREATE HUMAN SPERM FROM EMBRYONIC STEM CELLS, DESTROY HUMAN LIFE
London, England (LifeNews.com) — British scientists have used embryonic stem cells to create human sperm and made a breakthrough that they say will could revolutionize fertility treatment. However, their discovery couldn’t have been accomplished without the destruction of a unique human being and is drawing heat because of it.
Tim, it didn’t hurt Slick willie.
Comment by jones
Slick and the Dems didn’t go around claiming to be the party of family values and morality. BIG DIFFERENCE.
#41
After Frank, Spitzer and, Clinton getting ensnared in affairs, you still have the courage to post something like that? Talk about Chutzpha!
Why are you feeding the troll?
#48
We need men less and less everyday.
Tim, it didn’t hurt Slick willie.
Comment by jones
Slick even after the Dems did go around claiming family values and morality. NO DIFFERENCE.
49.
We need man haters less and less everyday.
LOUISIANA GOV. BOBBY JINDAL SIGNS PRO-LIFE BILL WITH ABORTION CONSCIENCE CLAUSE
Baton Rouge, LA (LifeNews.com) — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal signed a bill Tuesday that gives pro-life doctors and other medical professionals more conscience protections on abortion under state law. The covers both public and private health care workers and allows them to opt out of involvement in abortions.
second stimulus – see Drudge.
Obumbler wants it.
http://www.conservatives4palin.com
Pswlenty for Pres – Mac of 2008 minus 35 years?
Please not another Rino.
58. What about Colin Powell instead?He’s more “upscale” hahahahaha
Where can I buy a 6000 purse btw?
Is that upscale while unemployment rises and the economy suxs.
I think Colin could run with Arlene Spectacle as VP.
45. I’ll pass
Figures.
BTW, Chekote, I see you are really going out on a limb with your anti-values rants lately. This could only mean one thing–somebody is coming along to remind us how important family values are. I wonder who it could be?
$500 shoes to wear when feeding homeless.
$6000 purse to wear while yacking with the Eurorail rats.
I call the Powell – Spectacle Ticket
Dope and moop.
Chek, it has everything to do with politics and government. You wonder why there are so many scandals with government and corporate business nowadays. The reason being is people are in it for themselves rather than serving others and sacrifcing for the greater good. That’s what made the WWII generation so great. When trust and honor fall, so will this country. Democracy was founded on giving people the opportunity to pursue their “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” but the ultimate genius of it was giving people the choice to govern themselves by acting and doing that didn’t harm their fellow American. Cooking the books, lying to people, crony capitalism and politics are what is damaging and could destroy this nation. If the people cannot do this, they then deserve a master which Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton are notables who have stated this. As Ronald Reagan warned “Freedom is always one generation away from extinction.”
75% in MI say country heading in WRONG direction.
64. Dont laugh!
Both are “upscale” thus attractive to pro-abortion and/or athiest women
Link:
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story/EXCLUSIVE-POLL-Dealing-With-The-Deficit/_iGzH1L2CE-fjA3VGzwXhA.cspx?rss=785
“Chekote, I see you are really going out on a limb with your anti-values rants lately.”
Orders from the athiests over at KOS
68. HD
Barack Obama
60% Favorable
34% Unfavaorable
hahahahahahahahaha
What did Coburn do?
with your anti-values rants lately
Sure. Let’s keep going around saying that the Dems are immoral and anti-values and that the GOP is the epitome of morality and family values. You must be in denial.
BTW, Knova. This is why so many social moderates have ditched the GOP in many areas of the country. As soon as someone stands up for separation of church and state, immediately accusation of being anti-values start flying around. Hell, even Joe the Plumber ditched the GOP because he got tired of their holier than thou attitude.
Even Joe the Plumber — who opposes abortion and homosexuality and considers America a “Christian nation” — wants the party to drop its “holier than thou” attitude on divisive social issues.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1896588,00.html
I mean when even JTP leaves, you know you got real problems.
What did Coburn do?
Comment by MDefl
Adviced Ensign to end the affair and pay the woman off to heep her quite. As best as I can tell.
ABORTION DRUG UNSAFE, OBAMA UNPOPULAR, HEALTH CARE PRO-ABORTION, PRO-LIFE WOMEN OPPOSE SOTOMAYOR, GINSBURG RACIST ON ABORTION
• Planned Parenthood Study Shows One-Fourth of Abortions Involve Dangerous Drug
• Planned Parenthood Hails Abortion Drug as Safe, Ignores How It Killed Women
• Poll Shows Voters With Strongest Views Give Obama Net Negative Approval Rating
• Pro-Life Group Calling for Action to Stop Abortion in Congress’ Health Care Plans
HOUSE COMMITTEE DEFEATS AMENDMENT TO STOP OBAMA’S TAX-FUNDED ABORTIONS IN DC
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) — A House committee on Tuesday night defeated a pro-life amendment designed to stop President Barack Obama’s plan to fund abortions in the nation’s capital with taxpayer dollars. The House Appropriations Committee voted largely along partisan lines to prevent restoration of the funding ban.
JTp was a registered independent – not an R. This is/was common knowledge.
Broken record alert!
HD,
We will pick up at least 2 house seats in MI. Other than that, it is still tough for R’s to win any statwide race. Many R’s have left MI.
with your anti-values rants lately
Sure. Let’s keep going around saying that the GOP is immoral and anti-values and that the DEMs are the epitome of morality and family values. You must be in denial.
Sotohatewhitey needs to be defeated.
“Broken record alert! ”
Completely laughed at today bro.
Check out the thread below!
#79
Don’t think so. The Dems have too many votes. Not possible.
EPH,
Why does she bother with us “losers”. She must be very, very ill. Even Knova has turned on her.
“Where can I buy a 6000 purse btw?”
—
I was wondering the same thing yesterday, I didn’t even know a 6000$ purse existed.
Fits with the OVERCHARGE button though.
MI:
Which political party, the Democrats or the Republicans, will do a better job of addressing that problem or issue?
35% Democrats
32% Republicans
Both Granholm and Stabenow’s approval numbers are UNDER 50%.
Democrats only run family value candidates if they think it will earn them votes. There was a lot of that going on in 2006 & 2006, especially in Republican districts.
82. I just think s/he is desperate for somebody to latch onto here.
Brandon has mostly stayed away and LG has all but disappeared.
S/he is look to “convert” SOMEONE, ANYONE at this point.
The NARAL membership is on the line!!!
This is getting better and better:
$96,000. That’s how much Senator Ensign has admitted his parents paid to his now former mistress.
http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/
Why don’t these idiots just leave their wives? Oh wait, they can’t. They belong to the party of family values.
was wondering the same thing yesterday, I didn’t even know a 6000$ purse existed.
It exist. It is amazing how much you can spend on accessories.
Something I forgot to add, God is mentioned quite a few times in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. The memoirs of our founding fathers clearly indicate this nation was founded on Christian principle. However, it is the choice of the people to a person whether or not they will believe and always try their best be obedient to God. They however also realized that you can’t force people to believe something. That’s why the Pilgrims got away from the Church of England. The church was the government. The founding fathers left it to the people to determine whether they will be a righteous and just people under God or a corruptive and self-destructive one without God. It’s that simple.
“Sotohatewhitey needs to be defeated.”
—
Well it’s a nice dream.
It’s Sarah Palin’s Party
By R. A. Mansour
Sarah Palin is the Jacksonian “outsider” now.
The latest Rasmussen polling numbers were quite instructive. Palin’s biggest group of supporters are young, unmarried, and not social conservative evangelicals. Her supporters do not view her as the social conservative candidate. Social conservatives prefer Huckabee as a candidate in 2012; however, they think just as highly of Sarah Palin as they do Huckabee. Sarah Palin’s considerable base of supporters are attracted to her because she is the Beltway Outsider. She is the ordinary American who is fed up with the arrogant and incompetent Beltway elites who got us into the mess we’re in and yet still show such disdain for the ordinary hardworking people who want nothing more than for their government to be “on their side and not in their way.” Sarah Palin is our voice. When they laugh at her, we feel them laughing at us. Someday we’ll have the last laugh.
The permanent political punditry on the right and the left really don’t understand average schmoes like us. The current batch of rightwing pundits are graduates of the Reagan years and yet they no longer really understand what made him new because they themselves have grown old.
EPH,
Time for a warning!
Do they at least throw in a couple bags of skittles and some maxi’s with the $6k purse? lol
KOS PLANT ALERT…
…YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WARNED!!!
(Although at this point you all ignore the KOS plants anyway so why bother with these alerts?)
Democrats only run family value candidates if they think it will earn them votes. There was a lot of that going on in 2006 & 2006, especially in Republican districts.
Comment by Tony
Why do you think the GOP latched on the family values?! TO WIN VOTES. It is true that the Dems ran pro-life, values candidates in GOP district. Many won. Which shows you that many SoCons don’t care about smaller government. They just care about their “pet social issues”. Heck Eph, would vote for Obama if he was the only pro-life candidate in the race.
These two clowns Ensign and Sanford need a good ass kicking.
I think we can find some agreement with this point.
KH
Did you see that Iran had a new wave of demonstrations? I thing the regime is going to fall. What do you think?
Sick.
It’s Sarah Palin’s Party
By R. A. Mansour
He is absolutely correct. And that is not a good thing for the GOP and the conservative movement.
Democrats only run family value candidates if they think it will earn them votes. There was a lot of that going on in 2006 & 2006, especially in Republican districts.
Comment by Tony
Why do you think the DEMs latched on the family values?! TO WIN VOTES. It is true that the GOP ran pro-abortion, anti-values candidates in DEM district. Many won. Which shows you that many LIBS don’t care about smaller government. They just care about their “pet social issuesâ€. Heck ECheese, voted for Obama b/c he was the only pro-abortion candidate in the race.
It’s Sarah Palin’s Party
By R. A. Mansour
He is absolutely correct. And that is a good thing for the GOP and the conservative movement.
TB,
I agree on San and Ens. Coburn telling someone to stop acting immorally is OK by me.
BTW – Clinton preached morality in black churches all over the country while campaigning for Pres both times.
These two clowns Ensign and Sanford need a good ass kicking.
It won’t happen. They’ll get in front of the mike. Talk about redemption and the constituency X will talk about how we are all sinners and forgiven by Christ. Works everytime. I am still hoping that Jenny kicks his butt though.
“It didn’t hurt Slick Willie”
Huh? Didn’t he get impeached?
And, what does that have to do with Senator Ensign’s situation,now?
104. Clinton tried to run on values b/c of all the affairs he had and Ensign did not.
Sad and denmented. Obviously, missed the meds today.
Whats up EPH!
Sarah Palin is a Jacksonian outsider? Is that Andrew Jackson, or some other Jackson?
Andrew Jackson was a national war hero and that swept him to the presidency .. maybe its another Jackson that the article is referring to.
These two clowns Frank and Clinton need a good ass kicking too.
Coburn telling someone to stop acting immorally is OK by me.
Paying off blackmailers? That’s moral? Is it legal? Coburn told Ensign to keep his mistress quite.
“Sad and denmented. Obviously, missed the meds today.”
http://www.afterabortion.com
“Coburn telling someone to stop acting immorally is OK by me.”
Too bad Clinton didnt do the same!
Yes, Jackson was an outsider.
Going to black churches is like going to the Lions Club meeting. That’s where the AA votes are. I don’t think anyone thought that Clinton was the model of morality.
I don’t think anyone thought that Ensign was the model of morality.
Jackson was a Democrat. Is Palin a Democrat? Please, pretty please.
Joe,
You are free to peruse the very-well written piece by my friend R.A. Mansour
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/
Jackson was a Democrat. Is Palin a pro-abort Democrat too? You wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiish.
Knova,
Who is the problem now? How can we have constructive discussions with her on the board?
Knova,
Who is the problem now? How can we have constructive discussions with her on the board?
116. EXCELLENT !!!
Geez, Eph. You and Chekote really go at it LOL. I may not agree with some of Chekote’s positions but I also know she’s been around for a long time and can testify she is a fiscal conservative.
MD and knova,
And this time I waited for the KOS plants to make the first move…just so I can prove that exact point!!!
” I may not agree with some of Chekote’s positions but I also know she’s been around for a long time and can testify she is a fiscal conservative”
Dont but into the BS.
That is the way the KOS plants sucker you in!!!
MD,
At this point I’m waiting for Dave to ban us both that way you all can post in peace. I’m willing to take one for the team!!!
“Dont but into the BS. ”
buy into
MDefl
You would have more credibility if you also objected to the repetitious links by Eph. You one sided approach is not credible.
Fine. I will leave the SoCons and Palin alone for the rest of the day. Just one last link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/07/09/2009-07-09_to_go_forward_gop_must_snap_out_of_its_sarah_palin_spell.html
“Who is the problem now? How can we have constructive discussions with her on the board?”
Polipundit II
MDefl
You would have more credibility if you also objected to the repetitious links by Cheese. Your pro-life approach is very credible.
Fine. I will leave the athiests and proaborts alone for the rest of the day. Just one last link:
http://www.conservatives4palin.com
KH
Are you around?
#114:
He was a Promise Keeper. So, I did.
But, I ain’t judging the man, now. I just think he’s in a world of trouble with the voters of Nevada. But, I could be wrong, so….
OK everyone, another victory for Eph Rove!
You are free to post w/o stupidity.
If the KOS plants come back I will fire away though!!!
Didn’t Clintune run around with the biggest bible ever made?
Probably had some porn mags stuffed in it.
Well, that is true. But Chek is a Polipundit transplant. I just prefer to disagree with her on some things. I just want a solid rock-ribbed conservative candidate and we’re getting a proven one with Sarah. That’s why I’m so pumped about her. I just want the showdown between a flaming liberal (Obama) and a fervent conservative (Palin) and watch what happens in that presidential matchup. No wimpy middle ground. It’s either one or the other, simple as that.
Economic issues and Reid are the big issues in nv.
133. I would love to see that!
Is Inc the guy or gal behind BeJohnGalt?
Tina,
Right to the point as usual. Skippy killed the economy in S. Nevada. I don’t think the residents of NV really care about Ensign’s stupidity although that is no excuse.
I will tell you, if she runs, I cannot imagine the astronomical number of volunteers she will have for the primary let alone if she gets the nomination.
137. MD.
My inlaws live in Vegas. They say the samething. The economy is by far #1. They dont care about Ensign either.
138. Do you live in Phoenix?
I love Vegas! I go every May. Let’s get together.
An MDelf-Eph get together? hahaah, hide all the Kiev girls.
141. Dude. I go there all the time. Let me know the next time you are there. We will get together. Uou can buy me a steak dinner!
vegas in may sounds great, can I tag along.
Go ther3 two to three times a year.
Nope, Oklahoma
142. A lot of those in Vegas these days
I usually stay at the Wynn, or palazzo.
145. I saw ‘Phoenix’ and got excited.
Tina,
You want to hang with MD and myself ??
Let’s have an HHR get together.
EPH – nice try at attempting to re-write history.
I like the steaks at Kokomos in Tbe Mirage.
“EPH – nice try at attempting to re-write history.”
OK, gotta go now.
Probably had some porn mags stuffed in it.
Comment by Tina
That is the FUNNIEST thing I have ever red about Clinton. Probably true too. Great stuff, Tina. As always.
“Let’s have an HHR get together. ”
Word. Let’s try and get as many HHR’s as we can to meet in Vegas for a weekend. We can talk about getting the “upscale” vote in 2010!
Of course you leave now!
“I like the steaks at Kokomos in Tbe Mirage.”
WTF???? geeeeeeeeez man
TB
INC is a lady, in every sense of the word. She didn’t start BJG. JustRand and JustMary started the website. I just go there to argue with RWY. My favorite sport.
Although this is a kos poll, the listed demographic categories all match up nearly identically with the 2008 exit poll for Ohio.
I’ll go easy. I WON’T order the poterhouse and I WILL pick up the beers.
Jay,
But do you really buy the gap between Obama and Strickland?
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jul/08/spouse-ensign-affair-says-senator-should-resign/
LIke I said, I could be wrong. But, I have a feeling that this is a major problem. I guess we’ll see….
Tim,
Check out the shananigans of the mayor of Las Vegas and then get back to me.
#160
Not good. You watch. As soon as the Ensign story dies down, Sanford will give another interview. We are on a death spiral. Going down, down, down. Only Obama can give us a life line.
Invitee list for Vegas trip:
MDefl
EPH
Tina
Knova
Knighthawk
Brandon
TimV
Charles
Lisab (she won’t show)
Rachel
Gealeuax
Rdel
Wissing (if his new wife let’s him travel)
Tim – we need one Dem to beat on
Who am I missinf
Sen. Specter, Democratic Challenger Exchange Jabs Over Party Credentials
Sen. Arlen Specter and Rep. Joe Sestak traded sharp blows Thursday in a preview of their Democratic primary next year.
FOXNews.com
Thursday, July 09, 2009
Sen. Arlen Specter and Rep. Joe Sestak traded sharp blows Thursday, a potential preview of their Democratic primary next year.
Specter called Sestak a “flagrant hypocrite” for challenging Specter’s Democratic credentials. Specter switched political parties in April after 29 years as a Republican when it became clear he was headed for an epic GOP primary battle.
Specter said Sestak, a retired Navy vice admiral, didn’t register as a Democrat until 2006, when he ran for Congress.
Who am I missinf
Comment by MDefl — 7/9/2009 @ 8:38 pm
Ehhhm
#163
Still playing high school games. Too funny.
George – although I doubt he can make it.
Benni – if he wants to travel so far.
If it were up to me, I would invite everybody who wishes to have a strong political discussion. The only person I would leave out is Eph because he spreads untrue, hurtful rumours about people’s private life. So let the party begin.
Crap!
Of course, HD! You should have been at the top of the list. My apologies.
You see, I missed someone vital. I knew I was in the danger zone.
Where’s my invite?? You forgot Kiev girl as well.
MTR
#48
We need men less and less everyday.
Comment by Chekote — 7/9/2009 @ 7:23 pm
Teach a cucumber to mow the lawn and at least YOU might be right.
I got a ball game to watch.
TB,
I thought I had you. 4 glasses of wine at The Keg in Toronto tonight has clouded my mind.
Also, Bitterlaw and Justol.
Although Just is so young (Darn him!) that he might have to ask his parents for permission.
Sorry TB!
TB,
I apologize in advance if I am misunderstanding you. I see Strickland favorable 44-40, and Obama favorable 59-35, but I don’t see Obama approval in the poll (I see you mentioned those earlier in the thread). If you mean the favorables, I’m not sure that there should not be a difference. In the economist poll this week, for example, Obama’s approval was 51-40, but he was “liked as a person” 66-20
We need parental consent from Justol.
MDefl
Why don’t you cut to the chase and say everybody except me? Hint: Drawn out foreplay bores. Just trying to help you out.
I think there will be massive Democrat victories next year. Kasich and Portman are weak candidates who cannot connect to middle Americans. Economy will recover later this year.
Knova,
When you get back from the game read the Murphy article.
#97 – I saw. No I do not think it will fall think that opportunity was lost if it ever existed.
“Are you around?”
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Sort of.. though I will not be for next couple days.
Knighthawk,
You in for Vegas. Smoking IS allowed in the casinos.
#181
I am really hopeful. I think the “election” is the excuse that Iranians who want freedom were looking for. Here in Dallas we have had lots of demonstrations by Iranians.
#183
Why?
116 TB
Thanks for the link. Interesting read. From the first sentence, it sounded like Mansoor would draw parallels between Jackson and Palin and he doesn’t do that (except for the Outsider thing).
“You in for Vegas. Smoking IS allowed in the casinos.”
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No I got pulled into something at work cause some client of ours got in a fight with there co-lo and lost big time, and now have only till monday morning to up and move 12 racks of servers. For some reason we volunteered to get involved in helping to pull this off this insanity. So after about 12am tonight you may not see me for a couple days.
None of these polls in any state matter at this time.
Starting in Nov 2009 and into Nov 2010, all state and national elections will be referenda on the economy and jobs.
Democrats, as incumbent party, will need to defend the economy.
No head-to-head matchup is going to make a difference.
The degree of Dem losses will depend on the degree of voters’s unhappiness.
If the economy and jobs situation remains as today, Dems will lose the House, Senate will be a toss-up, and Dems will lose net 15 governorships.
MDelf,
What no invite for me? sniff sniff
Or I guess you can just bring along a punching bag – same difference. LOL
Big Joe
Haven’t you figured out the game plan? Everyone is invited except me. MDefl is running for class president again.
OK, Big Joe,
Your in.
#192
What did I tell ya? Cut to the chase MDefl. The lady is getting bored.
The degree of Dem losses will depend on the degree of voters’s unhappiness.
True. But also whether the GOP presents a credible alternative. I don’t see 2008 so much as an Obama victory. I see it more as a rejection of the GOP.
#188
Good excuse, KH. See you later babe. Same place.
190 Check, you don’t find MDELF to be hilarious? I do. Why get upset over an anonymous poster who in reality may be a 70yr old lady. Do we really know that anyone on this board really is who they claim to be?
The anonymous internet is a wonderful thing, thank you Mr. Gore.
191 MD. Thanks man, I’ll be sure to wear heavy padding and a helmet. haha
Do we really know that anyone on this board really is who they claim to be?
No. At least, I am not. However, it does give you an insight on the mindset of some people.
“I don’t see 2008 so much as an Obama victory. I see it more as a rejection of the GOP.”
Exactly my point. 2009, and then 2010, will be acceptance or rejection of Democrats. Does not matter who the GOP candidates are.
A monkey like Peter Fitzgerald can win if the voters are pissed enough.
If voters are pissed, any opposing candidate will look like Reagan to them.
On the other hand, if the voters are not pissed, then any idiot like David Patterson will sail through.
So I’ll maintain what I have said previously:
If the economy is perceived to be in the doldrums, it does not matter who the Republican candidates are.
If the economy is perceived to be improvin, it does not matter who the Republican candidates are.
Who am I missing ?
Comment by MDefl
jones, howard dean..
“82. I just think s/he is desperate for somebody to latch onto here.
Brandon has mostly stayed away and LG has all but disappeared.
S/he is look to “convert†SOMEONE, ANYONE at this point.”
Eph, I knew you would miss me !!!
You need me in your life
any predictions for Obama’s rasmussen number in the morning?
I say he goes to -10
Tim V,
I got HD. I missed Jones, sorry.
Let’s add ron, Phil amd Darrell.
Too much pressure! I think we are 90% there at rthis point.
Patterson cant even win the black vote anymore. He’s history…GONE!
I had a relative that was a fundraiser for Patterson after the obama campaign and worked out of his office. She said he had such a bad personality “really dry-zero charisma” that it was impossible to fundraise for him.
Lib Girl is in. I want to see knova lecture her in person.
Big Joe,
I am 5′8.5″, 173 “lbs. A little too heavy for my taste but I hurt my back 6 weeks ago and just started working out again last week.
Jay,
I guess I don’t see much distinction between Obama’s favorable ratings and his approval ratings.
It seems to be a very nuanced distinction that most polling respondents wouldn’t pick up on. Even if we accept that most respondents would pick up on this distinction, how much lower can his approval numbers be from his favorable numbers?
LG:
Does not matter who Patterson is. If the economy improves by next summer, Patterson will be a shoo-in. If not, he will lose to anybody that the Reps put up.
Skippy is “Bushing” his party.
204. MD, umm thanks for revealing your measurements but I’m not into dudes.
Does this mean I have to list my stats too? I’m 5′8 150. When I was in college I could grab rim (bball) and that’s the truth.
As I’ve said, I’m not *Big* and my name is not *Joe* either.
“158.I’ll go easy. I WON’T order the poterhouse and I WILL pick up the beers.”
You got it bro!!!
MD,
We can invite cheesecloth too, just drop her off at Planned Parenthood of southern Nevada and she’ll be fine.
204. MD.
Damn! I’m 5′8″ about 195.
No more 31 Flavors for me.
Obama is playing the Clinton playbook.
Step 1: Cram in as much of his leftist agenda as he can by 2010.
Step 2: Step 1 will result in Dems being thrown out of power in 2010.
Step 3: Republicans in power in Congress after 2010 will force him to act like a centrist.
Step 4: Take credit for any improvment.
Step 5: Re-election in 2012.
“Eph, I knew you would miss me !!!
You need me in your life ”
Only if you are for G-d’s unborn children. Then yes, I do.
Joe,
I’ve seen the Jackson and Palin comparison made by other conservatives as well. What these folks are really talking about is stylistic similarities, rather than substantive similarities based on their policy proposals.
I’ve seen the Long-Palin one made, the Nixon-Palin, and the Reagan-Palin.
212. The problem with that is it’s already been played.
I personally like the General DeGaulle, Whittacker Chambers comparisons the best.
215. So what?
Obama is in a no-lose situation.
If the Dems ram through his program (cap-and-trade, tax increase, healthcare takeover, card-check, amnesty), he gets everything he wants.
For any voter fall-out, the Dems in Congress take the fall in 2010. Even if the Dems don’t pass everything, they still get blamed for the economic and jobs misery.
If the Dems are still in power after 2010, he uses them to consolidate more power between 2010 and 2012.
If the Reps take over in 2010, he positions himself as a centrist, signs some tax cuts etc., lets the economy improve, and takes credit into his re-election.
TB, I thought “approval” numbers were usually shorthand for a question of “job approval” versus “favorability” being, do you view a person favorably. The economist poll shows how this could make a good-sized difference. I could see persons viewing Obama favorably, but not approving of his job performance, just as, in the reverse scenario, someone could approve of, say, Ensign’s job performance but view him unfavorably. Ohioans have had more time to mull over Strickland than Obama.
knova is 5′11″ 179 pounds, likes long walks on the beach…oops wrong blog.
new thread
HD and TB are musts for the invite list
214. TB,
Those on the left would be quick to point out the Quayle-Palin and Eagleton-Palin comparisons.
Reminds me of an article I read in the fall (maybe Nate Silver, can’t remember). The article had a list of other articles thad had claimed “Obama is the next xxxxx” and there were like 50 different people from all ends of the spectrum (from Reagan to FDR to JFK and others). Wish I could find it, it was very entertaining.
Big Joe,
You said I could be a 70 year old woman. You brought the topic up.
Eph, I’m not hiding. It’s the summer, I have things to do.
thanks tim v. I have been here for 5 years and people are always forgetting me.
Plus I am who I claim to be.
Joe,
Your side also likes the Agnew comparison.
William Jennings bryan is one that I’ve heard as well.
89. The Declaration of Independence mentions a deity only two times: “Nature’s God” and “Creator”. The last paragraph references “Divine Providence.”
There is no mention of God or any other deity in the US Constitution.
Where can I buy a 6000 purse btw?
Is that upscale while unemployment rises and the economy suxs.
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227 . Wasn’t there also a Palin-Obama comparison. At some point, these comparisons start to get absurd
229. Did somebody say “upscale” ?
Help me. I’m having lisab withdrawal. Feeling week. Lisab-just blink to tell me you are nearby. She’s like my laurie Due or is it Dueh…or Doo..or maybe Duehe…?
Ahhh-much better. Thank you. It’s like watching your favorite show without that one character you depend on to always deliver. BTW, Michelle will get pregnant by 2012 to buy more votes.
There is no mention of God or any other deity in the US Constitution.
Comment by maelstrom
Shhhh…. don’t bother some people here with facts.
“There are no facts, only interpretations.†Friedrich Nietzsche
The Constitution does mention God 73 times in the prologue which actually ended up on the cutting room floor. The final draft, however, omitted the reference because the “G” on the typewriter they used kept sticking.
there is a new thread btw
No. 24: “And its a Daily Kos poll, so I would counsel you to ignor. They did not do very well last polling outing.”
Are you referring to the GE 2008? If so, the R2K polls were very accurate.
Bonn,
They were 7th out of 20. Not bad.
Hey, I got invited! Thanx, Mike!
I figure we could share a bottle of scotch and I could convert you.
Albert and Charles
There are more people than I thought. I will detail the complete list at some point over the weekend.
“There is no mention of God or any other deity in the US Constitution.
Comment by maelstrom
Shhhh…. don’t bother some people here with facts.”
How many times are “right to privacy” or “penumbra” or “emanations” mentioned in the Constitution?
#241:
Make it bourbon. Scotch tastes like iodine, as William Powell said.
243. The right to privacy is contained in the 9th amendment “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”, in the 10th, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”, and in the 4th “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
Don’t you think you have a right to privacy?