McCain Surges Into Lead In Latest USAT/Gallup Poll
Obama Bounce? What bounce?
I haven’t posted a national poll in a while, but this one is newsworthy for the simple fact that it is the first national poll in months that shows John McCain ahead of Barack Obama. Gallup, along with USA Today, now shows John McCain with a 4% lead over Barack Obama after Obama’s supposedly successful trip around the world.
US PRESDIENT – NATIONAL (USAT/Gallup)
John McCain (R) 49%
Barack Obama (D) 45%
This poll was done July 25-27 among 791 likely voters. Now among the 900 registered voters in this poll, Obama actually leads 47%-44%. This contradicts the Gallup daily tracking poll done without USA Today’s help over the same exact time period, which claims Obama has a 48%-40% lead among registered voters over McCain. Here is what Frank Newport claims is the reason.
As for the difference between the tracking and USA TODAY/Gallup polls, Frank says not to read too much into it. “Statistical noise” may be largely to blame.
Regardless, it seems to me Gallup looks a little silly releasing two separate polls that give conflicting results…I guess it is a way for a pollster to cover all the bases so that whatever the final result ends up being, they can say they “nailed” it….
FIRST!!!
going from 900 RV down to 791 likely voters you lose a lot of squishy support Democrats. The questions here asked how likely the voter was to vote in November and most likely if they had voted in the last election. So imagine what a lot of those Democrat responses looked like.
Anyone see this on NRO
Pawlenty?? ugh
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTAyYWU0MmVhNGUzMzhiNjhjZDQ2ZGIwNWZiMzhlODM=
The London Times has this:
An al-Qaeda chemical and biological weapons expert may have been among six people killed in a suspected US missile strike on a Pakistani madrassa near the Afghan border today, according to security officials.
Abu Khabab al-Masri, also known as Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Umar, was an Egyptian chemist regarded as one of al-Qaeda’s top bomb makers and had a $5 million bounty on his head.
Pakistani security officials said he was the target of a pre-dawn attack that destroyed a house close to a madrassa used by militants about 12 miles west of Wana, the main town in the tribal region of South Waziristan.
The officials said they had heard that al-Misri, 55, was killed but had been unable to check the reports as it was hard to reach the area, a haven of al-Qaeda and Taleban militants.
Such a pity!
McMentum!
Folks, turn out the lights on the John McCain campaign. The Campaign Spot reports that Tim Pawlenty is likely to be John McCain’s VP choice. In effect, McCain will be doubling the snooze factor. While conservative, Pawlenty will do little to rile up the sleeping base.
This is very disappointing news. Hello Bob Dole!
I am sure everyone knows that both Gallup and USA Today use the same raw data for their poll results. They then apply different voter turnout models to the same basic underlying data set to report the .
Frank Newport is blowing smoke when he says “statistical noise”. It’s not stat noise, it’s differing turnout models.
6) I haerd that its going to be Fred Thompson
Whats better: JOEMENTUM or MCMENTUM??
As a Jew I know alot of us were turned off with Obam’s massive rally in Germany.
Kind of took us back a few years to a time not so friendly to our people.
I guess I wasn’t the only one who was sort of “creeped” out by the whole speech in Germany. It was just scary. I think it woke people up to just how much of a power hungry egomaniac he is.
Robbie
Arent you the guy that Tina was blasting about a week or so ago?
I kinda detect a pattern, you post are almost universally negative. I think you could go over to HuffPO or Kos and post your same shtick and get rave reviews from the puffsters and kossacks. You might want to think about that. When I read thru your posts I am expecting it to be signed Harry or PMD at the end, and that is not a compliment.
An interesting hypothesis is whether McCain’s attack on Obama’s indifference to wounded veterans – seen in McCain’s “Troops” ad buy over the weekend – is having an effect on the numbers.
More here, with a trackback:
http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/mccain-leads-obama-49-45-among-likely.html
No bounce for the Obumbler. He got a negative bounce from this one.
What’s wrong with Pawlenty? I think he would be a great choice. Could he possibly switch Minnesota to red? I would much prefer him over Romney and we need Jindal here in Louisiana for a few years. So, I like the Pawlenty rumors.
You people know that there are at least 20 different “polling firms” working as we speak to off set the results from this poll.
Soon to come: Obama +20 !!!!!!!!
Yes, I was critical of Robbie during the primary, but he has been here since 2004.
Where are all the Democrats Abroad today?
I don’t think Pawlenty is as bad a choice as some may think. Young, conservative, evangelical christian, from Minnesota, he could play very well. Blue collar roots, he will play well in the Midwest.
gee, i went to a few liberal websites and all they did was put down the usatoday gallup poll, since the result did not favor them,
Look Obama leads In Rasmussen by 3 within the margin of error, since friday his numbers are down.
Gallup yesterday he led by 9, today is 8, just reviewing the number i would say it will be around 6 point lead tomorrow
these are downward trends, to be honest i dont care about the national poll,
the polls i care about are Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Colorado, Florida,Nevada, NM, and Virgina, these are the states that will decide the election the other ones will be the same result as 2004, accept Iowa which Obama will win
Robbie
McCain does not need a dynamic VP he only needs one that does not irritate the base. Dick Morris has only one thing right on this election so far, and that is that McCain does not need to unite his base, Obama will do that for him.
Eph-
McMentum is much better
Gary Maxwell
The last place you will find me is on the HuffPo or Kos. I realize that my posts come across as negative, but I would argue they are the perspective of a realist. I think a small dose of that is needed here. After reading most of the comments on this site, I would expect to see McCain rack up a 45 state win.
I’ve been very consistent in my view since late March. The McCain campaign has been a boring and disorganized mess. I’m not the only one who feels that way either. Bob Novak, the most tuned in conservative, has said the same thing. Republican insiders are worried to death about his stagnant campaign.
None of this means McCain will lose, but he is headed in that direction. Considering his age and the dislike of the Republican party, McCain needs to make a bold pick that shakes up the race. Tim Pawlenty is not that guy. In a normal year, he would be a fine pick. This is not a normal year for Republicans though.
I know most people disagree with my views, but McCain can’t win with a close to the vest campaign. Bob Dole tried that and Bill Clinto won a second term. Yes, most people don’t vote on VP choice, but I bet it matters this year due largely to McCain’s age.
I don’t people to assume I won’t vote for McCain, because I will. I care most of the Supreme Court. I’m just saying that there has to be some reason to vote FOR McCain. Right now, he hasn’t been able to articulate why undecideds should vote for him. It’s not enough just to be against Obama.
I really thought Steve Schmidt would get this campaign in order. It hasn’t happened yet.
Hugh
I respectfully disagree with you. McCain needs to show his campaign is actually alive. Yes, he holds mostly conservative positions, but he can’t articulate them at all. A dynamic pick would help unify the base and sway undecided independent voters. McCain can’t win this year by being not Obama. Maybe he could have done that in 2000 or 2004, but not in 2008. There has to be an affirmative reason to vote for him. He hasn’t made that case yet.
I don’t even bother with Dick Morris. I think he’s the master of hindsight.
So today it’s Pawlenty, a few weeks ago, someone posted here claiming to have inside info that it was Romney–100% guaranteed. Don’t you all get it? These are TRIAL BALLOONS to see reaction as names are leaked out there. Next week they will float Huckabee.
Speaking of ___ mentum…
What if McCain picked Lieberman and Obama picked Ghore??
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
VP picks are not going to matter. McCain or Obama will win or lose on his own.
Here’s my trial balloon:
McCain picks Hillary.
Obama picks Huckabee.
28) I bet McCain would love to pick Billary. He would win 45 states!
Or better still,
Obama picks McCain, McCain picks Obama.
McCain gets youth and charm to balance the ticket.
Obama gets experience and leadership.
Speking of…when is Dave going to have his VEEP-stakes??? I want to get my picks in befor ei get another long term banning.
I’m still going with Kasich.
Hannity is interviewing McCain on his radio show, and McCain is hitting home runs. Doing very well.
McCain just moments ago said very transparently, that he has not even narrowed down the veep list to a few…the list is still somewhat large and vetting is ongoing with a lot of people involved.
McCain’s interview just ended. He just pulled in a lot of wavering conservatives. It was really good.
34) Translation – he has nade his pick!!
Translation – He’s going to wait until Obama picks first.
Let me say that this is the National poll is awhile that seems to have the mood of the country fixed.
Kudos to the coloured map paper
Pawlenty? I’ll take Ridge – decorated Vietnam Vet, pro-choice (not my view but it helps win the Philadelphia suburbs), appeals to the bitter gun-owning churchgoers who elected him Governor twice. If McCain wins Pennsylvania, Obama is doomed unless he picks up a bigger combination of Red states.
Obama has to pick rather soon.
The DEM convention is one month away folks.
NO way Ridge – McCain needs the life vote badly. Pawlenty would be better for that reason.
Jason Lewis, a Minnesotan and an occasional fill-in for Rush, is not a fan of Pawlenty. He wrote a tough piece against him in the local paper. I’ll try and find a link to the piece.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120373223052387643.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries
Hannity just had on a knowledgeable conservative caller from Minnesota who said Pawlenty ran as a strong conservative but has since drifted badly to the middle.
Brownback would be a great pick too, but he can be liberal of fiscal issues from time to time.
On the Campaign
Where’s the Bounce?
By ADAM NAGOURNEY
Published: July 28, 2008
WASHINGTON — It is a question that has hovered over Senator Barack Obama even as he has passed milestone after milestone in his race for the White House: Why is he not doing better?
It shadowed him as he struggled against Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in many states through the primaries, results that sometimes stood at odds with the huge, enthusiastic crowds that turned out to see him. It was there in the exit polls that suggested that many Democrats were uncomfortable with Mr. Obama, putting an asterisk next to some of his biggest primary victories.
NYT
BIG CROWDS.
NO BOUNCE!
Dems NOT enthusiastic!
Just saw where Robert Novak has brain cancer or a brain tumour?
In an instance right out of the TV “House” someone having a car accident and not being aware that they hit someone is often a sympton of a brain tumour
what means NADE??????
Dems enthusiastic
Independents and Republicans aren’t
Hi folks
now I am back from berlin and many people are confused about him and why he was in berlin!
there were some people who want to demonstrate against him(death penality) but
the obama people put them out of the crowd for clean tv pictures at home!!
Robbie, It’s hyped up.
He’s only in the 70’s with Dems.
That’s HORRIBLE.
Looks like the enthusiasm among stoodints is on the decline too:
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/brianfaughnan/2008/jul/24/enthusiasm-for-obama-on-the-wane-2/
Who cares what Hannity says? Same old song and dance, he bashes fellow Republicans until they come on his show and kiss his ass. Then he tries to tell the audience that he had a meaningful, heartfelt dialogue with (insert republican here) and now approves of said republican.
Hannity doesn’t believe anyone should think for themselves just play the game by his rulebook. He does this to conservative and moderate republicans. God forbid any Republican ever have a difference of opinion.
Howard Dean – what happened to all your video links?? Job is slow today -got plenty of time to watch…Eph
Sorry, I was referring to comment #44 from Darrell.
52, I was more interested in what McCain was saying, not Hannity.
In this poll, they said that the conservative base united against him. That may be true, but I got to believe that conservative Demos, and the indies are turning away from the Obumbler.
52) Have you ever heard him cream over Levin and North as his best friends in the whole wide world???
I turned him off after that episode.
It’s Rush or nothing these days!!
Levin is much better than Hannity. He is just ok imo, but not exceptional.
There were 109 registered voters (900-791) that were screened out by Gallop’s likely voter screen. According to the numbers released, those 109 voters broke down as follows: 8 for McCain, 67 for Obama, and 34 undecided. Quite a disparity, but it makes sense if you assume that most of those are newly registered young voters (who generally love Obama) who haven’t voted before and thus wouldn’t be considered likely voters. History says they won’t turn up at the polls in significant numbers, but if they do, watch out.
howard what means the word nade??
Anyone notice how civil I am today?
Maybe he meant Nader??
howard what means the word nade??
Comment by Benni — 7/28/2008
I never heard of it.
This poll was also a weekend poll.
(not sure of the context either b/c I have not read all of the posts).
Mose
Its not a slam dunk that a youth voter not old enough to vote last election is screened out as an unlikely voter. They ask several questions and the sum total of all the responses yields a likely not likely model. They dont tell you their model so that folks called dont get to scam the pollster with the response that gets them a likely voter tag.
Look Democrats are just a whole lot less likely to vote, and that is an every election thing. We always hear about how that is changing this election, but it somehow never changes.
The same youth voters that were supposed to launch Howard Dean’s candidacy in 2004.
I believe many registered voters who might be more likely to vote for Obama then McCain (ie Clinton supporters) will either stay home or opt out of a choice in the Presidential race.
If they stay home watch out.
So, the Obumbler is getting about 70% of the D vote, how do Rs and Is go to McCain in this likely voter poll?
The same youth voters that were supposed to launch Howard Dean’s candidacy in 2004.
And George McGovern before that.
dea Tina
I know Nader!!:-))
Somebody use the that word in the postcomments a few days ago but i dont find again
Why are thereno new polls todayß??
when will Ras show a poll of IN ID WY OK??
Benni, just trying to be helpful, and that is the closest think I could guess. I did not read those comments.
“Nade”
might have been
“Made”
as in they made a bad choice.
I do not know why there are no new state polls. There were 3 national polls released today, including the one in this thread.
I am sure we’ll see more.
i predicted yesterday that mccain has a 33% chance of picking someone the base won’t like.
i still think mccain does not understand that the press only liked him because he spoke out against bush.
i say his best choices are:
Palin, Romney or Patraeus
Palin baby!!
drudge does not have a big headline showing mccain ahead … i would have thought it was big news. in fact this is the first time in a long time obama is not the headline
speaking of drudge
“ABBOTSFORD, B.C. — Alexandru Ionce and his wife never planned to have 18 children in 23 years but when they welcomed little Abigail Ionce into the world, that’s just what happened.” drudge
someone needs to take this woman aside and explain about birth control
I hope he will pick romney!!
Tina I know that you want to help and thanks for this!!
i think Palin helps in general (1 to 3 percent)in every state, but not a lot in any one state.
romney would have a good chance of getting michigan … then it is almost game over for obama
i think obama may be taking a second look at hillary if his polls go down any more, although his ego would get in the way of asking her …
plus … if his polls go below mccains she just might say “NO”
Petraeus would be a very unconventional choice, a pick I like actually.
Me thinks he meant nada, you know like zipo, zero zilch, kinda like Obama
Drudge doesn’t have a big headline showing McCain ahead.
If you’ve been reading Drudge for the last year you wouldn’t be surprised. He and Obama ought to get a room.
“Petraeus would be a very unconventional choice, a pick I like actually.”
i doubt he is being considered, he is also probably up for a huge job on the joint chiefs or even sec. of defense
but it would win for mccain
cons … 2 military guys, no econ experience
pros: they would wipe the floor with anyone except maybe obama/hillary
it would be an exciting choice and patraeus would be young and vibrant enough to offset obama.
plus obama would have nothing to say on military matters. patraeus would only have to say, “how come you didn’t visit my soldiers?”
mccain is not that smart though
if mccain picked patraeus the left would flip out …
i think he would be more prestigious than powell
Hypothetical question for Dems.
Won’t happen in all probability but what if McCain took a small but significant lead in most of the national polls. Any chance that supers would panic and select Hillary in Denver? She certainly would be the heavy favorite in the general.
Obama might win, but Hillary would be a heavy favorite.
no, he would have to have more than a small lead. at five points there would be talk — nothing more. at ten points … you would see hillary forced on the ticket for sure … for vp.
i am SURE obama now has big problems regarding even having hillary’s delegates vote at the convention. they wanted her name off the ballot … but it is upsetting the hillary supporters
dear Phil
normally I am a democrat
I love Hillary but
Obama -I hate him and will do everything that he lose
I think the supers are nervous and I am sure a few will change i Dever the side but probably not enough becuase they are not brave enough-cause of the blacks-unfortunel
So I pray that McCai will win in the fall-better he as this balck devil
Lisab, I agree with your Petraues comment.
However, McCain has domestic/economic experience, actually more than the Obumbler. He serves on the Commerce Committee.
Tina,
it is a no brainer assuming he has no alcohol problems or mistresses or something like that. that ticket would probably win close to 350 EV’s.
it would make obama look completely inexperienced and unready.
fortunately for dems, i do NOT think mccain is smart enough to even consider it.
plus he would have to ask president bush for approval, and mccain would not want to do that … an ego thing.
btw, who is obama picking as vp?
the reps seem to have some choices, but who do the dems have left?
Ok, what if something else should show up? – more Wright tapes, Michelle tape etc. Would that make a difference or are Dems too afraid of blacks not showing up. Personally, I doubt Dems would stay home and not vote for Hillary in the fall. Despite all the talk, blacks are Democrats first and since the 60s always have been.
Looks like Bayh to me.
#70 Don’t forget “Clean” Gene McCarthy!
The students loved him as well. You may remember him as a two term president who was elected both times in landslides … or maybe not.
David Patreaus is and interesting idea based on his service, but that’s not enough for me. Does anyone know what his political philosphy is? I know I don’t. Based on his education, I suspect he’s a Republican moderate. If positions matter, we would need to know much more about his views. After all, were he to become VP, he would be the presumptive Republican choice in 2012 or 2016. That’s why I’m so worried about Pawlenty. I don’t want moderation enshired in the Republican party.
NO way Ridge – McCain needs the life vote badly. Pawlenty would be better for that reason.
Comment by Eph — 7/28/2008 @ 5:38 pm
The “life vote” knows Obama will be far worse as President than Ridge as VP. I want Pennsylvania as a Red State again. Ridge makes it turn away from the Dems.
Some of you may remember CNN co-sponsoring a poll right after the Dem Convention in 2004. Of course, the expectation was that Kerry would bounce out of Boston with a big lead, but the poll showed Bush with a slight lead. CNN didn’t even post the poll on its Web site. Keep that in mind when you see this poll being chalked up to “statistical noise.” Once again, pollsters didn’t get the result they wanted and are downplaying it.
I remember that Gallup Poll right after Boston. Bush led by 49 – 47 or something similar. Pretty much of a surprise.
Yeah, in that poll, Kerry received the first negative bounce going after a convention. All due to Teresa and Silky.
Petraeus would be a shocking pick. i suspspect he chooses the SC Governor.
Just no Rinos, please McAmnesty uh McCain.
I would make a formal prediction for McCain’s VP pick, but I do not want to ruin my 98.6% accuracy rate.
It is being reported that Tim Kaine Governor of Virginia is under consideration as Obama’s running mate.
I think Obama is going to pick the Governor of Montana Brad Schweitzer or Senator Max Baucus.
Montana baby!!
So Obama is going to roll the dice on Virginia. Maybe he isn’t all that confident about carrying Ohio and is looking for another way to get to 270.
106) Why? Is there anyone in Ohio who wants to run with Ohio? Does he have a choice???
106) Why? Is there anyone in Ohio who wants to run with Obama? Does he have a choice???
He has to pick someone who has experience. I mean his trip to Europe was a Disaster.
I say Max Baucus. He’s somewhat moderate on international issues and liberal on social issues so the man-haters wont mind.
FNC playing latest McCain Ad about the Obumbler refusing to hold a hearing about Nato’s role in Afghanistan, in addition to Obama refusing to meet troops and blaming the Pentagon.
Another good ad. The former BC-04 Ad Team appear to be hitting the Obumbler right on the $$$.
Obama will not win Ohio.
Clinton won 39 out of 88 counties in 1992, including 21 counties in the so-called Ohio Appalachian region in the southeast. Kerry won only 16 counties, and only 6 of the app counties.
Gov. Ted Strickland is from this region, and he knows that his core constituency, the blue-collar Democrats, will not support Obama. To avoid the embarassment of deep rejection, he took himself out of the VP consideration.
Obama will not win more than 10 counties out of 88 in Ohio, and exactly 1 in the southeast part of the state.
Marc Ambinder reports that a dark horse for McCain’s VP choice is the CEO of FedEx. He’s a Marine veteran of Vietnam and a good voice for Republican economic policies. While I’m not 100% sure about the social issues, I do believe he is a conservative. I neither endorse nor oppose this selection, but this is just the type of out of the box choice that could do McCain wonders. In times of economic uncertainty, the CEO of one of America’s best respected companies would be a very good choice.
McCain Promotes Drilling for Oil Off US Coast
Monday, July 28, 2008 8:30 PM
BAKERSFIELD, Calif. — Republican John McCain said Monday that drilling for oil off the U.S. coast is an essential part of any plan to lower gas prices and reduce dependence on foreign sources, and he criticized Democrat Barack Obama for opposing it.
“We all know that a comprehensive solution is wind, tide, solar, all the other things all of us believe in,” McCain told reporters after touring San Joaquin Facilities Management, an oil company in the California desert that yields 1,100 barrels a day. “In the meantime, as we develop all of these alternate sources of energy, it will be vital that we continue oil production at a high level, including offshore drilling.”
McCain called Obama the “Dr. No” of energy.
I asked how his “Citizen of the World†tour will go down in Steubenville, Ohio.
“There will probably be some backlash,†he said.
NYT (Maureen Dowd)
Fred Smith of Memphis TN would be a great choice, but what would Fedex do without him??
Lisa: #77
The need to send that woman to Europe…she might help them raise their birth rates. Or they could try what Putin did, a national “get it on” day to increase birth rates in Russia.
Both my grandma’s were baby making factories too…one had 12 and another had 14. Imagine that…I could not keep track. I would be like…”which one on my sons are you…what’s your name again?”
tcga,
she is from europe.
Lisa: #85
Yes, the left would flip if McCain chose Petraeus because they would think we were planning WWIII. Two military guys would be the last straw for them. SF wouldleave the Union…and Berkeley too…not that that would be a bad thing.
I agree he would be more prestigious than Powell. I never was crazy about Powell for two main reasons: (1) he was reluctant to do the job in Iraq #1, and (2) he came across as lazy to me. He could have won POTUS in 1996 but it felt like he did not want to work for the job and go out and campaign. I got the feeling if we gave it to him he would take it, like he did with Sec’y of State but he never really wanted to do all the dirty work and long hours that goes into campaigning and selling your ideas. Besides, he was not as conservative as I would like. To me, he was more form over substance.
has everyone seen the new W movie trailer?
my favorite part is when george jr. and george sr. get into a fight and george jr says,
“do you want to dance with me?” — meaning fight.
do republicans really talk that way?
oh, and the picked an ugly woman to play condileeza. she is way prettier than the actress in the movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEyJ2kdaaTQ
Where is Harry, Joe, Aaron, etc….?
tcga,
oh yeah if petraeus was on the ticket they would flip out …. that is sort of why i like that choice, it would be fun to watch.
plus i think they know they would lose big so obama would just unravel.
i must admit i have motive though. it would force the dems to reshape the party and sweep out all of the kossians and toadies. they could get back to a sane party that … oh … has principles beyond “we hate bush”. maybe, help the poor …
that the dem party was willing to allow iraq go down in civil war rather than even try the surge, shows just how pathetic the dem party has become. it is supposed to be the party that helps women and children around the world, not the party that turns loose terrorists on them
McCain picking Pawlenty is a big sigh of relief for libertarians. The boring-ass Midwestern Governor will just add more snooze to McCain’s already snooze campaign.
If McCain had chosen Palin or Sanford or some other libertarian Republican, we libert Repubs would have had a tough choice to make with Bob Barr in the race.
But now that a boring ass conservative has been chosen, it’s BOB BARR ALL THE WAY FOR ALL LIBERTARIANS, both Libertarian Party and Libertarian Republicans!!
Bob Barr…yeah right…lets all vote for a clown.
Barr will be lucky to get two percent in his native Georgia. Doubt he does though.
Bob Barr is lame. And, looking lame in this field of candidates is a pretty hard thing to pull off.
I’ve made more posts today than I have in the last five months, but I think this is a critical time for McCain’s campaign. Regardless of the polls, McCains needs to do something to kick start his campaign. The drilling message has been effective, but he’s been unable to make it part of a broader economic theme.
The VP choice is really the last event McCain can use to change the dynamics of the campaign. The convention is just a speechfest and little will come of it. For that reason, I believe McCain should make a bold choice for VP. He needs to change the conversation. Obama is dominating right now.
Bobby Jindal, Sarah Palin, and even Fred Smith of FedEx would be that kind of big moment that changes the momentum of the campaign. Gore was floundering in 2000, but his pick of Liebermann juiced up his campaign and made a 10 point race even.
I’ve made my views on Pawlenty known, but I’m less opposed to Romney than I was three months ago. I think he has problems, but his economic message and delivery might do McCain well. Either way, these two men represent a conventional view of the campaign. More of the same it would not be, but it would not fundamentally alter the race.
OOps i’m on the wrong site. This is a anti obama. byee
obama08
Has to be Pralin!!!!!!
Petraeus = Obama win in November…and BIG
Sure, Barr is “lame” to Conservatives, because BARR IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE HE’S A LIBERTARIAN.
Conservatives are just pissed off and secretly seething cause they know they’re losing a critical segment of their voting bloc this year to the Libertarian Party.
Are we supposed to be surprised here at Hedgehog that a bunch of Conservatives call Bob Barr names like “clown.”
Every one of you has libertarian friends. Ask them if they think Barr is a clown, or if they will be voting for McCain?
Then why did he only become a “libertarian” this year to run for president?
Why did Bob Barr vote for the Iraq War, Fisa aka Wiretaps, and Medicare Expansion – prescription drug?
He will be a non-factor in the race b/c he has no personality.
Ah, so now it’s Barr. Last I heard, Ron Paul was the one who was going to steal all the Republican votes.
At some point Libertarians will realize that there is a world outside the internet.
http://autos.msn.com/everyday/GasStations.aspx?m=1&l=1&zip=23464
Highest gas in the land is Cantwell, AK. Ironic? “Can’t (oil)well”
Bob Barr could not get reelected to his House seat in rural Georgia and he is going to sweep the nation with all these votes? I cant type and hold my hurting sides at the same time! Libertarians traditional get about 400K votes total. That is about right for Barr, an asterisk, behind both Nader and McKinney in the race that means nothing, the highest vote total for a third party.
Losertarians.
Liberterians
Here’s a tune for you
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LrY07aMei_I