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The Republican’s Problem In NovemberThese are the two pictures The Washington Post has up on their website touting the victories of Obama and McCain as of the time of this post.   Democrats could not ask for a better contrast…. {The Obama photo was from Reuters. the McCain photo was from AP.}
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who is with mccain?
warner,john va
it looks like mccain may be for gay marriage after all …
that seems a little intimate
its obama vs mccain.obama wins va in the general.
That’s almost as awkward as the Bush-McCain manhug of a few years ago.
I do think age is problem for McCain. Not a fatal flaw, but a problem. Youth is a double-edged sword for Obama.
wow
ALL Obama voters know he has absolutely no real crediability as a Presidential candidate. A lot of them just like him. But most of the country likes maturity.
Remember many Obama voters are ABC voters: Anybody But Clinton. In Virginia today many voters voted for Obama even though the prefer McCain because they already know he has clinched the nomination.
Just keep voting ABC until this is settled and then we can start worrying about the GE.
Ray, do you have evidence to support those statements? Or just intuition?
You all need to relax. The general election is not yet decided. It is February and the GOP has not run one ad highlighting the liberal-marxist record of Obama.
I don’t care how many rallies Obama has, at some point this election will be about issues. And this country is not as liberal as Obama.
The GOP should actually be thankful that Obama is the candidate because he is too young and naive to understand the maxim of American politics — Democrats only get elected nationally when they camouflage their liberal views and pretend to be conservative. There is no pretense about Obama — he is a pacifist, a Marxist, and proud.
Just consider the many votes we will be able to highlight.
1. Today, Obama voted against every provision of the FISA law that allows the U.S.to spy on foreign phone calls from terrorists.
2. Months ago, John McCain said he would rather lose a campaign than lose a war. Obama would rather lose a war than lose a campaign. As a matter of fact, Obama is so oblivious to the facts on the ground in Iraq that he his willing to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. He will lose Iraq even if the war is already won.
3. John McCain spent 5 1/2 years in a box fighting for the country he loved. Barack Hussein Obama refuses to put his hand over his heart when saying the pledge of allegiance.
4. Obama voted to withold medical treatment from babies that survive abortions and are living outside the womb.
5. Obama is proposing the greatest middle class tax raise in a long time. He wants to repeal the Bush tax cuts which provided every family of four making under 100K about a $2000 tax break. He also wants to raise the FICA tax on people making more than 90K/year so they have to pay a FICA tax on a larger portion of their earnings. The last time I checked, a person making 90K was in the middle class.
6. There is nothing bipartisan about Obama. He voted against Cheif Justice Roberts and Justice Alito, two incredibly bright jurists.
7. Obama wants to nationalize health care. Health care is 1/6 of our economy and the federal government has never demonstrated a competency to handle ANY sector of the economy.
8. Obama does not believe in class mobility. He sees the poor and middle class as victims that cannot survive without government. As a result, he wants to penalize people who try to enter higher income brackets by raising their taxes. Just remember, whenever you say you are repealing tax cuts for the wealthy, you are really repealing tax cuts for people TRYING TO BECOME WEALTHY. The wealthy do not have to pay taxes because tax is on income, not wealth. Fundamentally, Obama does not believe in the American dream of earning more and maximizing your personal freedom — so instead wants to “equalize” society by pulling down those who succeed instead of raising up those who fail.
9. His office faithful are supporters of Marxist guerilla Che Guevara. Kiss Florida good-bye.
10. In sum, Obama does not exude American ideals. He loathes personal property, individual responsibility, and capitalism.
Oh, yes, come November this election will be about issues.
nixon thought that in 1960
Lisab,
Critical difference – JFK wasn’t a liberal.
michael, most of your accusations have already been proven false. He has pledged to the flag since he was young. He has said he will cut taxes for the middle class (I don’t know if he will but you can’t just make things up about him michael). Our health care system is broken, how do you want to fix it? I don’t hear republicans talking about it. Finally to say that he does not believe in the American Dream is just stupid. He represents the American Dream far more than any of the GOP candidates.
Evidence and logic!
Most recently, the exit polls in VA had this in their survey. Of the Democrat voters who voted for the person with experience, Obama got less than 4%. Where he won over 60% of the vote.
Focus groups of Obama supporters have been asked to name any accomplishments of Obama. The only 3 things they could come up with were: 1) recently elected as a new Senator, 2) the only black in the Senate, and finally 3) he gives great speeches. Others couldn’t even give any examples.
Ray, experience is not his strong suit. This may bring him down in the end. The point is that most Americans are not happy with where “experience” has gotten us. That is why he is doing so well. Washington experience has not fixed the problems many Americans face. Our foreign policy over the last 8 years has been shaped by “experience” and all it has done is isolate us around the world. Our economy is not in great shape after 8 years of “experience”.
If Obama talks about his experience, it does not work for him. When he talks about what experience has done for the country, he makes a great case for himself.
michael corleone:
“liberal-Marxist”? Oh, good grief!
McCain will soar in Virginia. He will have great strength in the Norfolk area and will do unexpectly well in the rural areas. Frankly he will do just able as well as Bush in the DC suburbs. Obama will be pressed to do better then Kerry
Obama’s greatest accomplishment is Obama.
The greatest thing about Obama’s campaign is the campaign.
Obama’s message is togetherness, unity, change and hope.
Hillary Bush McCain offers us more of the same.
Is anyone else fed up by the liberal media’s coverage of Obama? They refuse to ask Obama any questions. What is their motivation? Are they afraid he can’t answer a question? Perhaps they know better than us who should run the country?
I for one am not willing to trust them. Obama may speak well, but I fail to see how that is the only qualification for president.
The problems with McCain speak for themselves in that picture. I think the Elephant will be replaced by the Rino. The GOP is no more. Conservatives need not be a part of a redux of 1996.
I’m afraid Senator John McCain (R-AZ) will eventually be nominated by the GOP for president just to be a sacrificial lamb during the general election, especially against the ever-increasingly likely Democratic presidential nominee, Senator Barack Obama (D-IL). And there is absolutely no doubt that Senator McCain will face a very uphill battle to hold onto the White House for the GOP coming this fall.
You guys are all fairly young. I predict that if the media begin, as you have, this contrasting of the young Obama and the old McCain, it will be a mistake. The older folks vote in very large numbers. If they begin to feel “agism” at work in the Obama campaign, they will likely vote for McCain. The vaunted “youth vote” never shows up. We hear about it year after year. Of course, we could pass an emergency bill to allow 16 year olds to vote as was suggested in the New York Times last week. That should do it.
@bio mom
I’m only in my mid-20’s and I agree with all that. I mean, if wasn’t working and just sitting around the house collecting SS checks and pension*, even with a hobby, it probably wouldn’t be a big deal to take an hour or so out of my day to go vote. When you have a job, classes (or a job to pay for classes), its a bit harder to get some time to go out and vote. It also could be b/c a lot of polling places are in retirement homes, like where I voted last week. That’s why I think presidential elections should be a national holiday, but that’s just me.
*That’s not to say that that’s all I think senior citizens do, but as young as I am, I have trouble imagining what you do when you retire besides go out and vote.
All I have to say is:
Just because “we can” doesn’t mean we should.
Obama would destroy our economy, our military, and our value system.
As I said before, I think Hillary would be the easier candidate to beat in November. Anti-Hillary voters (Conservative Democrats, Independents, etc.) would show up in large numbers in nOvember to vote against her as evident yesterday. I personally know many people (Republicans) who voted against her yesterday. I don’t think these voters will do the same against Obama in November.
I think Peggy Noonan had a great point last week: Obama will be hard to beat in November because any attack on him will be portrayed by the media as racist. I mean, you had President Bush saying on national TV this week something like, “I don’t think Bill Clinton is a racist.” If the media portrayed the “first black president” as racist for his critiques against Obama, imagine what they’ll do to the “reactionary” GOP?! It’ll be Harold Ford x 1,000,000!
I’m starting to think now that, if Obama’s the nominee, McCain loses easily. The media will just continue to refuse to ask tough questions of Obama. If Clinton’s the nominee, McCain wins. The only way she can win the nod now is by a) a lawsuit to seat MI and FL delegates, b) pressuring superdelegates, or c) taking out Obama at the kneecaps. Either would result in incredible division within the Democratic Party, hugely depressed turnout by blacks and youths, and a huge opening for McCain to win independents and conservative Democrats.
My accusations have not been proving false.
There are pictures of Obama not putting his hand over his heart while the other Democrats did.
Also, please explain to me how Obama is the American Dream. He was born into wealth, attended private school his entire life, and was never in anything but the upper-income brackets.
Finally, I know he says he will cut taxes for the middle clasee, but when you look at his proposals they are distinct middle class tax increases. And Obama never explains what he defines as the middle class.
Here’s another Republican problem:
in Maryland, where Hillary finished a distant second to Obama, she still managed to have as many people vote for her as for all the Republicans COMBINED. This is in a state which had a Republican Governor only 13 months ago.
nothing is guaranteed in politics, ofcourse, and MD is indeed a rather Democratic state, but the turnout numbers from here and throughout the country are not a good sign for the GOP.
The country won’t elect a black socialist. Blue collar white Dems won’t vote for Obama in states like Ohio. He’ll also have trouble with Hispanics. As has been shown in the primary, they are voting 2 – 1 against him.
Proud MD Dem says,
Here’s another Republican problem:
in Maryland, where Hillary finished a distant second to Obama, she still managed to have as many people vote for her as for all the Republicans COMBINED. This is in a state which had a Republican Governor only 13 months ago.
Well yeah, the weather was miserable and we really had no choices left on our ticket. I hardly get excited about voting for delegates and school board people I know nothing about. Hillary and Obama are going to be spending money just to get out of the primary. That will be a problem for them in Novemeber. Dont worry about us. We might not love McCain but we dislike your candidates more.
#14 Ray -
“…voters who voted for the person with experience, Obama got less than 4%.”
People who thought experience is the most important qualification favored Clinton. So what is that supposed to prove?
“Focus groups of Obama supporters have been asked to name any accomplishments of Obama.”
Not sure where you saw your focus groups, but it’s safe to say that most Americans cannot name the political accomplishments of politicians.
Neither of your points is evidence of the assertions you made in your original post, #7:
“ALL Obama voters know he has absolutely no real crediability as a Presidential candidate.”
You should support that claim.
“But most of the country likes maturity.”
Maybe, but this is also a pretty youth-obsessed culture. Age will cut both ways in this election.
“Remember many Obama voters are ABC voters: Anybody But Clinton.”
Support that claim with evidence. Here’s some counter evidence:
70% of VA primary voters were self-identified democrats.
The Clintons are VERY popular with democrats.
2/3 of voters in the D primary said they would be satisfied with a Clinton nomination.
If most like the Clintons and most would be satisfied with a Clinton nomination, where is your evidence to support this claim of the ABC vote?
“…today many voters voted for Obama even though the prefer McCain because they already know he has clinched the nomination.”
Can you support that claim? Again, 70% were self-identified democrats. About 20% were indies (same percent of indies as voted in the R primary).
Response to Go Duke:
“…the weather was miserable …”
- that’s the sorriest excuse ever; as if the weather affects Democrats and Republicans differently … LOL
“… and we really had no choices left on our ticket …”
- my point exactly !
” Hillary and Obama are going to be spending money just to get out of the primary.”
- they have plenty of money to spend, and the exposure in all the states will be a big net plus for the eventual winner on our side.
“Dont worry about us. We might not love McCain but we dislike your candidates more.”
- well, we Democrats like BOTH of our candidates … and how do you think we feel about John “Third Bush Term” McCain (also known as John “100-year War” McCain) ?
Please provide a link that McCain said that we will be at War for 100 years. I am interested in this comment.
It wasn’t that he said we’d be in the war for 100 years, he said he’d keep the troops there for 100 years if he had to.
Still, that’s easily spun into what you just heard, so it probably still wasn’t the smartest thing to say.
I meant smartest thing for McCain to say.
Anon – I know, its a Democrat lie. They will repeat it until its become a fact.
“Obama would destroy our economy, our military, and our value system”—#24
Oh, good grief! I’m just amazed that any rational thinking person would believe anything like that.
Bio-mom obviously doesn’t remember the Clinton-Dole campaign in 1996 or the 2000 Roth-Carper race for the Senate. Both featured younger, more energetic candidates facing members of the “Old Guard.” Respectively the percentage results were as follows:
Clinton 49-Dole 41, 1996
Carper 55-Roth 44, 2000
It doesn’t look to me as if contrasting youth and age can hurt Obama all that much. Of course then what do I know? Bitterlaw says the invention of the plane and car since 1896 guarantees a GOP lock on the White House, so McCain will be fine.
Now, Now guys, respect your elders.
My point was that the contrasting regarding age can go too far and be counter-productive. I don’t recall that being done so much regarding Dole. And he was running against an incumbent and in a time of illusionary prosperity and no ground wars killing our soldiers.
Also, I know students here think they are really busy and pressed for time. I am a University prof so I appreciate that. But I also raised 3 kids. Nothing is more demanding than that. And the 30-55 age group votes heavily also.
“illusionary prosperity”?
I think what BM means Tim is that the prosperity was largely based on a dot.com boom. In addition, the media kept saying that a 5.5% unemployment rate was very good.
Now, a 4.9% unemployment rate is very bad!!!
HRC is in real trouble ( I was wrong when I assumed she would roll over Obama – are you happy now Howard?) but the GOP (and the country) is in deep sh*t with Obama in charge.
He gives a nice, feel good speech but Obama is an ultra-leftist who will weaken our country. Exceptional oratory skills should not be the main thing that a President brings to the table.
If he is elected, maybe the R’s can re-gain congress in 10. Then again, maybe not.
There are some on here Who actually believe the GOP will take back the House this year, Md. The fact that the GOP is underfunded, has only a few strong candidates in areas expected to be favorable to them (giving Chet Edwards a pass, for instance), has 29 incumbents not defending their seats (although GOP incumbents tend to have much more a propensity to lose–even in GOP areas–than Dem incumbents), and really is directionless, rudderless, and idealess doesn’t faze them. If Obama beats McCain, then his policies once in office will rally the Republicans and maybe cause them to regain Congress. We’ll see, but regardless of the outcome of the presidential race, 2008 has just about nil chance of seeing Republicans regain either house of Congress, much less both. Come on, Hellbelly, Bitterlaw, and Darrell, tell everyone how I’m lying because of my supreme hatred of the Republicans–and provide a single example of untruth or distortion in this entire post.
Wes:
Yeah, I gotta agree with you on GOP chances in the House and Senate, this year. Just too much working against them.